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Attributes | |
ACN | 268012 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6400 msl bound upper : 7500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 7500 |
ASRS Report | 268012 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 7000 vertical : 800 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At approximately 7500 ft a 'traffic' TA was issued by our TCASII. At approximately 7100 ft a 'monitor vertical speed' RA was issued along with a 1500 ft rate of descent lights illuminated. At approximately 7100-7000 ft a 'descend, descend' RA was issued along with 1500 ft rate of descent lights. At approximately 6700 ft an 'increase rate of descent' RA was issued with 2500 ft rate of descent lights. At approximately 6500 ft a 'clear of conflict' was issued and we leveled at approximately 6400 ft'. (Our cleared altitude was 7000 ft.) 1) no TA was issued by approach control prior to the TCASII TA. (Approach was too busy after we got the RA.) 2) the outbound airliner was climbing to 6000. 3) the TCASII software commanded both of us to do the opposite response had we been in VMC. 4) the outbound traffic (at 90 degree to our course) subsequently followed his TCASII and climbed to approximately 6500 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCASII RA ACCOUNT CLOSURE RATE OF CLBING ACFT, COMMANDS DSCNT.
Narrative: AT APPROX 7500 FT A 'TFC' TA WAS ISSUED BY OUR TCASII. AT APPROX 7100 FT A 'MONITOR VERT SPD' RA WAS ISSUED ALONG WITH A 1500 FT RATE OF DSCNT LIGHTS ILLUMINATED. AT APPROX 7100-7000 FT A 'DSND, DSND' RA WAS ISSUED ALONG WITH 1500 FT RATE OF DSCNT LIGHTS. AT APPROX 6700 FT AN 'INCREASE RATE OF DSCNT' RA WAS ISSUED WITH 2500 FT RATE OF DSCNT LIGHTS. AT APPROX 6500 FT A 'CLR OF CONFLICT' WAS ISSUED AND WE LEVELED AT APPROX 6400 FT'. (OUR CLRED ALT WAS 7000 FT.) 1) NO TA WAS ISSUED BY APCH CTL PRIOR TO THE TCASII TA. (APCH WAS TOO BUSY AFTER WE GOT THE RA.) 2) THE OUTBOUND AIRLINER WAS CLBING TO 6000. 3) THE TCASII SOFTWARE COMMANDED BOTH OF US TO DO THE OPPOSITE RESPONSE HAD WE BEEN IN VMC. 4) THE OUTBOUND TFC (AT 90 DEG TO OUR COURSE) SUBSEQUENTLY FOLLOWED HIS TCASII AND CLBED TO APPROX 6500 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.