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Attributes | |
ACN | 268141 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : cvg |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 99 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 268141 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 5000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Arrival into cvg on blunt 8 -- approaching blunt intersection at 12000 ft and 250 KIAS. TCASII indicated an aircraft approaching more or less head on and climbing through 11300 ft. We acquired it visually and determined it to be a light twin. By the time ATC called out traffic to us, we had already started a turn to the right. TCASII indicated the twin still climbing through 11600 ft at a distance of less than 1 mi. ATC's traffic call referred to the twin as climbing to 11500 ft. This indicates to me a planned proximity of 500 ft separation on an arrival into a very busy airport. TCASII was indicating a climb to avoid the conflict and, under IMC, would have dictated that action. Any departure from altitude which is initiated as an evasive maneuver would logically involve at least 3-500 ft which appears to be the planned margin of separation into cvg. The twin would have passed directly under us if we had not turned and if it had maintained 11500 ft. This means that no horizontal separation was planned at all. Scattered clouds in the area permitted VFR operations but could have also contributed to no visual contact. An earlier ATC call on the traffic would not have helped us find the twin visually any quicker.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG TURNED R TO AVOID A VFR ACFT.
Narrative: ARR INTO CVG ON BLUNT 8 -- APCHING BLUNT INTXN AT 12000 FT AND 250 KIAS. TCASII INDICATED AN ACFT APCHING MORE OR LESS HEAD ON AND CLBING THROUGH 11300 FT. WE ACQUIRED IT VISUALLY AND DETERMINED IT TO BE A LIGHT TWIN. BY THE TIME ATC CALLED OUT TFC TO US, WE HAD ALREADY STARTED A TURN TO THE R. TCASII INDICATED THE TWIN STILL CLBING THROUGH 11600 FT AT A DISTANCE OF LESS THAN 1 MI. ATC'S TFC CALL REFERRED TO THE TWIN AS CLBING TO 11500 FT. THIS INDICATES TO ME A PLANNED PROX OF 500 FT SEPARATION ON AN ARR INTO A VERY BUSY ARPT. TCASII WAS INDICATING A CLB TO AVOID THE CONFLICT AND, UNDER IMC, WOULD HAVE DICTATED THAT ACTION. ANY DEP FROM ALT WHICH IS INITIATED AS AN EVASIVE MANEUVER WOULD LOGICALLY INVOLVE AT LEAST 3-500 FT WHICH APPEARS TO BE THE PLANNED MARGIN OF SEPARATION INTO CVG. THE TWIN WOULD HAVE PASSED DIRECTLY UNDER US IF WE HAD NOT TURNED AND IF IT HAD MAINTAINED 11500 FT. THIS MEANS THAT NO HORIZ SEPARATION WAS PLANNED AT ALL. SCATTERED CLOUDS IN THE AREA PERMITTED VFR OPS BUT COULD HAVE ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO NO VISUAL CONTACT. AN EARLIER ATC CALL ON THE TFC WOULD NOT HAVE HELPED US FIND THE TWIN VISUALLY ANY QUICKER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.