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Attributes | |
ACN | 269746 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : row |
State Reference | NM |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : row tower : row |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Trainer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 10 |
ASRS Report | 269746 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 600 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I reported last yr about the temporary radar approach control run by the USMC. This yr we are forced to accept the USAF radar approach control. This near miss happened because of lack of experience with the USAF controllers. The ATC tape was pulled and listened to and the distance of 200 ft vertical and 600 ft horizontal was reported by the other aircraft, an MTR T1 using TCASII. Air carrier X was on IFR flight plan from dfw-row. MTR Y was a T1 in left closed traffic runway 21. The temporary approach control made a late handoff to row ATCT and T1 flew underneath X. I was looking out the left side window and saw the T1 right under our aircraft. Both aircraft made evasive maneuvers and the T1 complained to the control tower about how close the airplanes came to each other. I reviewed the tape and heard the 200 ft vertical and 600 ft horizontal report. I talked with the pilot of X who was upset but declined to file a near miss report. The temporary approachs are a terrible idea. The service is poor and safety is compromised. The FAA recently approved a radar approach control to be worked at roswell. This project needs to be expedited as much as possible.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X HAD CONFLICT WITH MIL T1 IN ATA. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT.
Narrative: I RPTED LAST YR ABOUT THE TEMPORARY RADAR APCH CTL RUN BY THE USMC. THIS YR WE ARE FORCED TO ACCEPT THE USAF RADAR APCH CTL. THIS NEAR MISS HAPPENED BECAUSE OF LACK OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE USAF CTLRS. THE ATC TAPE WAS PULLED AND LISTENED TO AND THE DISTANCE OF 200 FT VERT AND 600 FT HORIZ WAS RPTED BY THE OTHER ACFT, AN MTR T1 USING TCASII. ACR X WAS ON IFR FLT PLAN FROM DFW-ROW. MTR Y WAS A T1 IN L CLOSED TFC RWY 21. THE TEMPORARY APCH CTL MADE A LATE HDOF TO ROW ATCT AND T1 FLEW UNDERNEATH X. I WAS LOOKING OUT THE L SIDE WINDOW AND SAW THE T1 RIGHT UNDER OUR ACFT. BOTH ACFT MADE EVASIVE MANEUVERS AND THE T1 COMPLAINED TO THE CTL TWR ABOUT HOW CLOSE THE AIRPLANES CAME TO EACH OTHER. I REVIEWED THE TAPE AND HEARD THE 200 FT VERT AND 600 FT HORIZ RPT. I TALKED WITH THE PLT OF X WHO WAS UPSET BUT DECLINED TO FILE A NEAR MISS RPT. THE TEMPORARY APCHS ARE A TERRIBLE IDEA. THE SVC IS POOR AND SAFETY IS COMPROMISED. THE FAA RECENTLY APPROVED A RADAR APCH CTL TO BE WORKED AT ROSWELL. THIS PROJECT NEEDS TO BE EXPEDITED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.