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Attributes | |
ACN | 270081 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hpw |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 29250 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 15500 flight time type : 2700 |
ASRS Report | 270081 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 250 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Large line of circuit breaker's extend from bos, ewr, phl, iad, ric, gso. At cruise and proceeding along filed route of flight direct to hpw. At approximately XA15Z was center advised that they may have to change our altitude. Shortly after, a radar vector was given to us to the northwest towards line of WX. Was center advised that heading won't be long and back on course would be given soon. We assumed this was for ewr spacing and traffic. We were then given a right turn direct to ptx for the arrival into ewr. Center was very busy with traffic and line of WX. At approximately 60 southwest hpw, and in the clear, our TCASII gave us an RA descend followed by a climb. I immediately disconnected autoplt and autothrottles and followed both TCASII commands. We had target on scope at our 1130 to 1200 position. During the climb maneuver I made a slight turn to the right away from target, climbing to 29250 ft. We finally acquired a white business jet at our 10 O'clock position (falcon, cessna?) passing and missing us at FL290. We advised center of our RA and evasive action and how close it was. I know they had the corporate jet under their control while the business jet was climbing to FL290. When they turned us back on course, the spacing was not sufficient I feel, because of the corporate jet high rate of climb to FL290. That's why we got a descend command first, then when our conflicting traffic reached FL290, a climb was commanded. We immediately reported this to was center. I feel the TCASII system saved our lives and I will never cuss at this system again!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN AN MLG AND AN SMT JET AT HIGH ALT CRUISE.
Narrative: LARGE LINE OF CB'S EXTEND FROM BOS, EWR, PHL, IAD, RIC, GSO. AT CRUISE AND PROCEEDING ALONG FILED RTE OF FLT DIRECT TO HPW. AT APPROX XA15Z WAS CTR ADVISED THAT THEY MAY HAVE TO CHANGE OUR ALT. SHORTLY AFTER, A RADAR VECTOR WAS GIVEN TO US TO THE NW TOWARDS LINE OF WX. WAS CTR ADVISED THAT HDG WON'T BE LONG AND BACK ON COURSE WOULD BE GIVEN SOON. WE ASSUMED THIS WAS FOR EWR SPACING AND TFC. WE WERE THEN GIVEN A R TURN DIRECT TO PTX FOR THE ARR INTO EWR. CTR WAS VERY BUSY WITH TFC AND LINE OF WX. AT APPROX 60 SW HPW, AND IN THE CLR, OUR TCASII GAVE US AN RA DSND FOLLOWED BY A CLB. I IMMEDIATELY DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT AND AUTOTHROTTLES AND FOLLOWED BOTH TCASII COMMANDS. WE HAD TARGET ON SCOPE AT OUR 1130 TO 1200 POS. DURING THE CLB MANEUVER I MADE A SLIGHT TURN TO THE R AWAY FROM TARGET, CLBING TO 29250 FT. WE FINALLY ACQUIRED A WHITE BUSINESS JET AT OUR 10 O'CLOCK POS (FALCON, CESSNA?) PASSING AND MISSING US AT FL290. WE ADVISED CTR OF OUR RA AND EVASIVE ACTION AND HOW CLOSE IT WAS. I KNOW THEY HAD THE CORPORATE JET UNDER THEIR CTL WHILE THE BUSINESS JET WAS CLBING TO FL290. WHEN THEY TURNED US BACK ON COURSE, THE SPACING WAS NOT SUFFICIENT I FEEL, BECAUSE OF THE CORPORATE JET HIGH RATE OF CLB TO FL290. THAT'S WHY WE GOT A DSND COMMAND FIRST, THEN WHEN OUR CONFLICTING TFC REACHED FL290, A CLB WAS COMMANDED. WE IMMEDIATELY RPTED THIS TO WAS CTR. I FEEL THE TCASII SYS SAVED OUR LIVES AND I WILL NEVER CUSS AT THIS SYS AGAIN!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.