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Attributes | |
ACN | 270531 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : vwv |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : tol tower : gdl |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : tol |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Convair Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 270531 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2500 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Controller told X he had a traffic conflict, and asked 'to immediately descend to 6000 ft - traffic at 5 O'clock position, talking to center.' I dove the plane, then looked behind me. I saw the convair Y descending too: I pulled up to climb and lose speed and passed behind Y. I think the problem was the twin was slow to lose altitude on his descent into detroit area. If I had stayed at my cruise altitude of 7000 ft, I would have been 1000 ft over his path.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: X HAD LTSS FROM Y. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: CTLR TOLD X HE HAD A TFC CONFLICT, AND ASKED 'TO IMMEDIATELY DSND TO 6000 FT - TFC AT 5 O'CLOCK POS, TALKING TO CTR.' I DOVE THE PLANE, THEN LOOKED BEHIND ME. I SAW THE CONVAIR Y DSNDING TOO: I PULLED UP TO CLB AND LOSE SPD AND PASSED BEHIND Y. I THINK THE PROB WAS THE TWIN WAS SLOW TO LOSE ALT ON HIS DSCNT INTO DETROIT AREA. IF I HAD STAYED AT MY CRUISE ALT OF 7000 FT, I WOULD HAVE BEEN 1000 FT OVER HIS PATH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.