Aircraft off runway, propeller hit ground.

Attributes
ACN	271299
Time
Date	199405
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : 1d2
State Reference	MI
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	landing other
Route In Use	arrival other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : private
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 29 flight time total : 237 flight time type : 67
ASRS Report	271299
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	observation : company check pilot
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time total : 16000
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground critical other anomaly other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I had failed a portion of my IFR check ride. FAA designated examiner informed me to remove my foggles and relax, he will fly and land. I turned the controls to 'de' at his request. Crosswind from west, 'de' flew the pattern and set up for runway 18. 'De' asked approach speed used, I informed 70-75 mph. De positioned aircraft for crosswind landing. 'De' touched down at approximately mid field. Aircraft ran off runway approximately 40 yards. Propeller struck the ground and had minor damage. It could have been possibly avoided if I informed 'de' that I am PIC and I will fly the aircraft back to 1d2. I was under impression that 16000 hours ATP who is an examiner was competent to land aircraft. I followed his request. If faced with similar situation, I will advise examiner that he is an observer only, I will manipulate controls. Factors affecting judgement: examiner was a qualified pilot with 6000 hours of instruction and 16000 hours PIC time. I was intimidated by credentials and followed his request to let him land aircraft. I now realize PIC responsibilities remain mine during all check rides. I have reviewed FARS and will not turn controls over to an examiner if he/she requests I do in the future.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACFT OFF RWY, PROP HIT GND.

Narrative: I HAD FAILED A PORTION OF MY IFR CHK RIDE. FAA DESIGNATED EXAMINER INFORMED ME TO REMOVE MY FOGGLES AND RELAX, HE WILL FLY AND LAND. I TURNED THE CTLS TO 'DE' AT HIS REQUEST. XWIND FROM W, 'DE' FLEW THE PATTERN AND SET UP FOR RWY 18. 'DE' ASKED APCH SPD USED, I INFORMED 70-75 MPH. DE POSITIONED ACFT FOR XWIND LNDG. 'DE' TOUCHED DOWN AT APPROX MID FIELD. ACFT RAN OFF RWY APPROX 40 YARDS. PROP STRUCK THE GND AND HAD MINOR DAMAGE. IT COULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLY AVOIDED IF I INFORMED 'DE' THAT I AM PIC AND I WILL FLY THE ACFT BACK TO 1D2. I WAS UNDER IMPRESSION THAT 16000 HRS ATP WHO IS AN EXAMINER WAS COMPETENT TO LAND ACFT. I FOLLOWED HIS REQUEST. IF FACED WITH SIMILAR SIT, I WILL ADVISE EXAMINER THAT HE IS AN OBSERVER ONLY, I WILL MANIPULATE CTLS. FACTORS AFFECTING JUDGEMENT: EXAMINER WAS A QUALIFIED PLT WITH 6000 HRS OF INSTRUCTION AND 16000 HRS PIC TIME. I WAS INTIMIDATED BY CREDENTIALS AND FOLLOWED HIS REQUEST TO LET HIM LAND ACFT. I NOW REALIZE PIC RESPONSIBILITIES REMAIN MINE DURING ALL CHK RIDES. I HAVE REVIEWED FARS AND WILL NOT TURN CTLS OVER TO AN EXAMINER IF HE/SHE REQUESTS I DO IN THE FUTURE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.