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Attributes | |
ACN | 272169 |
Time | |
Date | 199405 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 98g |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 150 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | LA-4-200 Buccaneer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground other : taxi landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual enroute other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 1400 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 272169 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 150 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
When arriving at our cottage on may/xx/94, sand point near laseville, mi (saginaw bay -- thumb of michigan), I noticed fishing nets perpendicular to the shoreline extending from the north (point runs east/west) to about 500 ft off shore toward the south. We live on the north side of the point. The water was too rough north of the nets or the wind was west and southwest, requiring to land parallel to the shore between the nets and shore, just to the inside of the nets. The next day, the same situation existed requiring takeoffs and lndgs just south of the nets. A few jet skis and 1 boat (the boat was anchored) were also using the same area. My note: on the afternoon of may/xy/94 a boat was stuck on a sandbar 1 mi offshore waving a flag. As I was preparing to land, 2 jet skis came to his aid. I made 1 low (200 ft) pass to confirm his distress. Takeoffs never approached closer than 250 ft on the water and I never flew over any boat/jet ski less than about 150 ft for the lndgs and takeoffs which totaled 4. At one time it was necessary to step taxi to the west while deviating north around the anchored boat before proceeding with the takeoff. A few people complained I was too close to them to the huron county sheriff's department who then came out to our cottage. They were very nice about it and were aware that I was the first to have a seaplane on the point (the point is 5 mi long) and that people would just have to get used to it a little. According to FAA-lansing, a seaplane has the right-of-way over a more maneuverable vessel such as a jet ski! This should be made more clear in the regulations. Current regulations regarding minimum altitudes are fine -- in the state of michigan, minimum vessel clearance on the water of 100 ft is fine too, but this should be based on speed as at 5 mph and docking, no one keeps a 100 ft space between them! All in all, everything was performed safely and, except for a little more noise on the lake, most people are thrilled to watch and ride in the seaplane. I'm thankful for that right and will fight (if necessary) to maintain that right. Also, are we (seaplanes) allowed to make 1 low pass to check the water for obstructions prior to landing? To me, this is part of the landing phase and should be included in the regulations!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WATER VEHICLE TFC AND RIGHT-OF-WAY DISPUTED BY PLT OF AMPHIBIAN.
Narrative: WHEN ARRIVING AT OUR COTTAGE ON MAY/XX/94, SAND POINT NEAR LASEVILLE, MI (SAGINAW BAY -- THUMB OF MICHIGAN), I NOTICED FISHING NETS PERPENDICULAR TO THE SHORELINE EXTENDING FROM THE N (POINT RUNS E/W) TO ABOUT 500 FT OFF SHORE TOWARD THE S. WE LIVE ON THE N SIDE OF THE POINT. THE WATER WAS TOO ROUGH N OF THE NETS OR THE WIND WAS W AND SW, REQUIRING TO LAND PARALLEL TO THE SHORE BTWN THE NETS AND SHORE, JUST TO THE INSIDE OF THE NETS. THE NEXT DAY, THE SAME SIT EXISTED REQUIRING TKOFS AND LNDGS JUST S OF THE NETS. A FEW JET SKIS AND 1 BOAT (THE BOAT WAS ANCHORED) WERE ALSO USING THE SAME AREA. MY NOTE: ON THE AFTERNOON OF MAY/XY/94 A BOAT WAS STUCK ON A SANDBAR 1 MI OFFSHORE WAVING A FLAG. AS I WAS PREPARING TO LAND, 2 JET SKIS CAME TO HIS AID. I MADE 1 LOW (200 FT) PASS TO CONFIRM HIS DISTRESS. TKOFS NEVER APCHED CLOSER THAN 250 FT ON THE WATER AND I NEVER FLEW OVER ANY BOAT/JET SKI LESS THAN ABOUT 150 FT FOR THE LNDGS AND TKOFS WHICH TOTALED 4. AT ONE TIME IT WAS NECESSARY TO STEP TAXI TO THE W WHILE DEVIATING N AROUND THE ANCHORED BOAT BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH THE TKOF. A FEW PEOPLE COMPLAINED I WAS TOO CLOSE TO THEM TO THE HURON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPT WHO THEN CAME OUT TO OUR COTTAGE. THEY WERE VERY NICE ABOUT IT AND WERE AWARE THAT I WAS THE FIRST TO HAVE A SEAPLANE ON THE POINT (THE POINT IS 5 MI LONG) AND THAT PEOPLE WOULD JUST HAVE TO GET USED TO IT A LITTLE. ACCORDING TO FAA-LANSING, A SEAPLANE HAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OVER A MORE MANEUVERABLE VESSEL SUCH AS A JET SKI! THIS SHOULD BE MADE MORE CLR IN THE REGS. CURRENT REGS REGARDING MINIMUM ALTS ARE FINE -- IN THE STATE OF MICHIGAN, MINIMUM VESSEL CLRNC ON THE WATER OF 100 FT IS FINE TOO, BUT THIS SHOULD BE BASED ON SPD AS AT 5 MPH AND DOCKING, NO ONE KEEPS A 100 FT SPACE BTWN THEM! ALL IN ALL, EVERYTHING WAS PERFORMED SAFELY AND, EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE MORE NOISE ON THE LAKE, MOST PEOPLE ARE THRILLED TO WATCH AND RIDE IN THE SEAPLANE. I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT RIGHT AND WILL FIGHT (IF NECESSARY) TO MAINTAIN THAT RIGHT. ALSO, ARE WE (SEAPLANES) ALLOWED TO MAKE 1 LOW PASS TO CHK THE WATER FOR OBSTRUCTIONS PRIOR TO LNDG? TO ME, THIS IS PART OF THE LNDG PHASE AND SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE REGS!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.