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Attributes | |
ACN | 272495 |
Time | |
Date | 199405 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : scy |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 21300 msl bound upper : 22000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zfw |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 4800 |
ASRS Report | 272495 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
En route from grand cayman to dallas ft worth on may/xx/94 at XA30 local time, we received a 'hold' at coiax intersection with an expect further clearance time of XE50. The WX in that area was poor. Continuous moderate turbulence, icing. We were having a problem receiving scurry, VOR (scy) due to that, plus large thunderstorm (cell) close to hold fix. After 1 turn in the hold we realized that our fuel did not allow to hold much longer than the 'efc' time. We decided to divert to wichita falls, tx, (ict). We were at FL210. With the WX situation as it was we asked for 'higher.' we were then cleared to FL220. Shortly after level off at FL220 (around the 030 degrees and 20 DME from scurry VOR) (scy) area, we received a TCASII RA. 'Descend,' and the TCASII ivsi indicated a descent of about 2500 FPM. We began our descent. At about FL215 ZFW called to ask about our altitude. We advised that we were in a TCASII RA descent. Another airlines also said 'so is other air carrier number?' on a TCASII advisory. We descended to FL213. After the traffic conflict, we climbed back to FL220 and proceeded on course. At this point, I do not know what could have caused this traffic problem and TCASII RA. My guess is that the other air carrier may have been cleared above us with a high rate or climb or cleared to FL210 with a high rate of climb. Possibly we were both cleared to maintain FL220.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT DSNDED 700 FT WITHOUT ATC CLRNC.
Narrative: ENRTE FROM GRAND CAYMAN TO DALLAS FT WORTH ON MAY/XX/94 AT XA30 LCL TIME, WE RECEIVED A 'HOLD' AT COIAX INTXN WITH AN EXPECT FURTHER CLRNC TIME OF XE50. THE WX IN THAT AREA WAS POOR. CONTINUOUS MODERATE TURB, ICING. WE WERE HAVING A PROB RECEIVING SCURRY, VOR (SCY) DUE TO THAT, PLUS LARGE TSTM (CELL) CLOSE TO HOLD FIX. AFTER 1 TURN IN THE HOLD WE REALIZED THAT OUR FUEL DID NOT ALLOW TO HOLD MUCH LONGER THAN THE 'EFC' TIME. WE DECIDED TO DIVERT TO WICHITA FALLS, TX, (ICT). WE WERE AT FL210. WITH THE WX SIT AS IT WAS WE ASKED FOR 'HIGHER.' WE WERE THEN CLRED TO FL220. SHORTLY AFTER LEVEL OFF AT FL220 (AROUND THE 030 DEGS AND 20 DME FROM SCURRY VOR) (SCY) AREA, WE RECEIVED A TCASII RA. 'DSND,' AND THE TCASII IVSI INDICATED A DSCNT OF ABOUT 2500 FPM. WE BEGAN OUR DSCNT. AT ABOUT FL215 ZFW CALLED TO ASK ABOUT OUR ALT. WE ADVISED THAT WE WERE IN A TCASII RA DSCNT. ANOTHER AIRLINES ALSO SAID 'SO IS OTHER ACR NUMBER?' ON A TCASII ADVISORY. WE DSNDED TO FL213. AFTER THE TFC CONFLICT, WE CLBED BACK TO FL220 AND PROCEEDED ON COURSE. AT THIS POINT, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT COULD HAVE CAUSED THIS TFC PROBLEM AND TCASII RA. MY GUESS IS THAT THE OTHER ACR MAY HAVE BEEN CLRED ABOVE US WITH A HIGH RATE OR CLIMB OR CLRED TO FL210 WITH A HIGH RATE OF CLB. POSSIBLY WE WERE BOTH CLRED TO MAINTAIN FL220.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.