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Attributes | |
ACN | 275150 |
Time | |
Date | 199406 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pdx |
State Reference | OR |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 13500 msl bound upper : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid enroute airway : zse |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 275150 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2700 |
ASRS Report | 275147 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
During climb out performed standard climb procedures, including accelerating to normal climb speed above 10000 ft MSL. Center controller cleared us to 'accelerate to normal speed above 17000 ft' (we were then at approximately 13500 ft/320 KIAS) which was probably a gentle way of reminding us of the published speed restr which we had failed to notice in reviewing the SID during predep briefing. On this procedure (pdx page 10-3A) the restr is contained in climb gradient statement. Strongly recommend text referring to speed restr be written in bold face type or relocated to prominent location. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: call to facility reveals that they are not having any problems nor any pilot complaints about the speed restr. However, they will take a look at the SID to see if they make 250 KT speed restr more prominent. Supplemental information from acn 275147: departure chart makes poor reference (ie, no bold print) of this restr. See tampa departure charts as example of good reference. We were not notified by center or departure control that we were exceeding 250 KTS, but were told we could resume normal speed reading 17000 ft MSL. That is when we found it on the departure chart. We immediately slowed to 250 KTS. No notification was received that any problems occurred due to this speed deviation. Suggest placement of any abnormal speed requirements/restrs be in bold face and in a predominant place on departure SID charts.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT ON SID EXCEEDS PUBLISHED SPD RESTR.
Narrative: DURING CLBOUT PERFORMED STANDARD CLB PROCS, INCLUDING ACCELERATING TO NORMAL CLB SPD ABOVE 10000 FT MSL. CTR CTLR CLRED US TO 'ACCELERATE TO NORMAL SPD ABOVE 17000 FT' (WE WERE THEN AT APPROX 13500 FT/320 KIAS) WHICH WAS PROBABLY A GENTLE WAY OF REMINDING US OF THE PUBLISHED SPD RESTR WHICH WE HAD FAILED TO NOTICE IN REVIEWING THE SID DURING PREDEP BRIEFING. ON THIS PROC (PDX PAGE 10-3A) THE RESTR IS CONTAINED IN CLB GRADIENT STATEMENT. STRONGLY RECOMMEND TEXT REFERRING TO SPD RESTR BE WRITTEN IN BOLD FACE TYPE OR RELOCATED TO PROMINENT LOCATION. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: CALL TO FACILITY REVEALS THAT THEY ARE NOT HAVING ANY PROBS NOR ANY PLT COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SPD RESTR. HOWEVER, THEY WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE SID TO SEE IF THEY MAKE 250 KT SPD RESTR MORE PROMINENT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 275147: DEP CHART MAKES POOR REF (IE, NO BOLD PRINT) OF THIS RESTR. SEE TAMPA DEP CHARTS AS EXAMPLE OF GOOD REF. WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED BY CTR OR DEP CTL THAT WE WERE EXCEEDING 250 KTS, BUT WERE TOLD WE COULD RESUME NORMAL SPD READING 17000 FT MSL. THAT IS WHEN WE FOUND IT ON THE DEP CHART. WE IMMEDIATELY SLOWED TO 250 KTS. NO NOTIFICATION WAS RECEIVED THAT ANY PROBS OCCURRED DUE TO THIS SPD DEV. SUGGEST PLACEMENT OF ANY ABNORMAL SPD REQUIREMENTS/RESTRS BE IN BOLD FACE AND IN A PREDOMINANT PLACE ON DEP SID CHARTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.