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Attributes | |
ACN | 276684 |
Time | |
Date | 199407 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : frg |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1100 agl bound upper : 1100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : frg |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 360 flight time type : 360 |
ASRS Report | 276684 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 350 vertical : 350 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I had called frg tower and had been assigned a 'straight in' approach to runway 32. I was instructed to call the tower when 8 mi from the runway. Approximately 2-3 min after my call, I heard a second piper cherokee call frg, report a position close to mine and be given a 'straight in' approach to runway 32, again requesting he call when 8 mi from runway. I began an intensive scan of the area. No aircraft sighted. The tower became concerned and asked the second aircraft to be more precise about its location. He reported a position quite close to mine. The tower asked me if I had the second aircraft in sight, and just as they did so, I acquired the aircraft visually, above and to my left. It was close enough for me to read its numbers. The tower requested I make a 360 to my left. I asked for a right 360 degree to avoid turning 'into' conflicting traffic. My right turn was approved, and I fell into line behind the aircraft. I landed without incident. Of note, was the following sequence: the tower, told me that my return was 'weak,' they did not specify whether or not my transponder was working. I offered to 'recycle' the transponder and did so, placing it into standby, then again into altitude mode. The tower again said the return was weak. However approximately 30 seconds after my recycle, the tower reported receiving a stronger signal. My transponder light was indicating that my aircraft was being interrogated, so I believe it was operating properly. The tower uses a 'slaved' radar return from isp. Could the 2 targets have been close enough to confuse the radar? Frg is an extremely busy airport (3RD busiest in nys).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC OR NEAR FORMATION FLT.
Narrative: I HAD CALLED FRG TWR AND HAD BEEN ASSIGNED A 'STRAIGHT IN' APCH TO RWY 32. I WAS INSTRUCTED TO CALL THE TWR WHEN 8 MI FROM THE RWY. APPROX 2-3 MIN AFTER MY CALL, I HEARD A SECOND PIPER CHEROKEE CALL FRG, RPT A POS CLOSE TO MINE AND BE GIVEN A 'STRAIGHT IN' APCH TO RWY 32, AGAIN REQUESTING HE CALL WHEN 8 MI FROM RWY. I BEGAN AN INTENSIVE SCAN OF THE AREA. NO ACFT SIGHTED. THE TWR BECAME CONCERNED AND ASKED THE SECOND ACFT TO BE MORE PRECISE ABOUT ITS LOCATION. HE RPTED A POS QUITE CLOSE TO MINE. THE TWR ASKED ME IF I HAD THE SECOND ACFT IN SIGHT, AND JUST AS THEY DID SO, I ACQUIRED THE ACFT VISUALLY, ABOVE AND TO MY L. IT WAS CLOSE ENOUGH FOR ME TO READ ITS NUMBERS. THE TWR REQUESTED I MAKE A 360 TO MY L. I ASKED FOR A R 360 DEG TO AVOID TURNING 'INTO' CONFLICTING TFC. MY R TURN WAS APPROVED, AND I FELL INTO LINE BEHIND THE ACFT. I LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. OF NOTE, WAS THE FOLLOWING SEQUENCE: THE TWR, TOLD ME THAT MY RETURN WAS 'WEAK,' THEY DID NOT SPECIFY WHETHER OR NOT MY XPONDER WAS WORKING. I OFFERED TO 'RECYCLE' THE XPONDER AND DID SO, PLACING IT INTO STANDBY, THEN AGAIN INTO ALT MODE. THE TWR AGAIN SAID THE RETURN WAS WEAK. HOWEVER APPROX 30 SECONDS AFTER MY RECYCLE, THE TWR RPTED RECEIVING A STRONGER SIGNAL. MY XPONDER LIGHT WAS INDICATING THAT MY ACFT WAS BEING INTERROGATED, SO I BELIEVE IT WAS OPERATING PROPERLY. THE TWR USES A 'SLAVED' RADAR RETURN FROM ISP. COULD THE 2 TARGETS HAVE BEEN CLOSE ENOUGH TO CONFUSE THE RADAR? FRG IS AN EXTREMELY BUSY ARPT (3RD BUSIEST IN NYS).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.