Mdt parking on ramp taxies around baggage carts parked inside the safe lines.

Attributes
ACN	277399
Time
Date	199407
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : dtw
State Reference	MI
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	ground : parked
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 800
ASRS Report	277399
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 1800 flight time type : 800
ASRS Report	277039
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

This is a statement of a continuing problem. I was parking a dhc-8 on our crowded dtw ramp. Our major airline partner also shares this ramp space with its bag carts. They frequently park them over the safe lines because of a lack of space. This was the case today. The marshaller wanted me to taxi on the normal taxi lines, I taxied away from his instructions and away from the bag carts. Had I followed his instructions I may have struck a propeller on a cart. Our rampers are not allowed to move air carrier's carts. Air carrier is slow to move them on request. We were running very late. Our policy is to wait for all equipment to be moved to the safe side of the line. I chose a very safe option in parking the aircraft. I wasn't sure that the carts were over the line because the line is so difficult to see. They just looked too close. I advised all ramp supervisors that it is their responsibility to ensure that all equipment is behind the safe lines. They are in the best position to see everything. There was an FAA inspector on the ramp and may have observed the parking.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: MDT PARKING ON RAMP TAXIES AROUND BAGGAGE CARTS PARKED INSIDE THE SAFE LINES.

Narrative: THIS IS A STATEMENT OF A CONTINUING PROB. I WAS PARKING A DHC-8 ON OUR CROWDED DTW RAMP. OUR MAJOR AIRLINE PARTNER ALSO SHARES THIS RAMP SPACE WITH ITS BAG CARTS. THEY FREQUENTLY PARK THEM OVER THE SAFE LINES BECAUSE OF A LACK OF SPACE. THIS WAS THE CASE TODAY. THE MARSHALLER WANTED ME TO TAXI ON THE NORMAL TAXI LINES, I TAXIED AWAY FROM HIS INSTRUCTIONS AND AWAY FROM THE BAG CARTS. HAD I FOLLOWED HIS INSTRUCTIONS I MAY HAVE STRUCK A PROP ON A CART. OUR RAMPERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO MOVE ACR'S CARTS. ACR IS SLOW TO MOVE THEM ON REQUEST. WE WERE RUNNING VERY LATE. OUR POLICY IS TO WAIT FOR ALL EQUIP TO BE MOVED TO THE SAFE SIDE OF THE LINE. I CHOSE A VERY SAFE OPTION IN PARKING THE ACFT. I WASN'T SURE THAT THE CARTS WERE OVER THE LINE BECAUSE THE LINE IS SO DIFFICULT TO SEE. THEY JUST LOOKED TOO CLOSE. I ADVISED ALL RAMP SUPVRS THAT IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT ALL EQUIP IS BEHIND THE SAFE LINES. THEY ARE IN THE BEST POS TO SEE EVERYTHING. THERE WAS AN FAA INSPECTOR ON THE RAMP AND MAY HAVE OBSERVED THE PARKING.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.