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Attributes | |
ACN | 277679 |
Time | |
Date | 199407 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bda |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 30500 msl bound upper : 31000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | L-1011 Tri-Star All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute airway : a523 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 277679 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was the first officer and PF air carrier flight xy, a lockheed L-1011-50 from jfk to sju on jul/xx/94. After giving our position report over priss at FL290 on a 523, we requested a climb to any higher altitude up to FL370. A few mins later, ny arinc returned with a clearance from ny oceanic ATC to: 'maintain FL290 to ladue, then climb to and maintain FL370.' after passing ladue (confirmed by crossing radial/DME from bda), I initiated a 1500 FPM climb to FL370 and reported leaving FL290 to arinc. After passing FL300 we received a TCASII TA which quickly progressed to an RA from a target ahead at FL310 opposite direction and closing. I immediately began a descent back to FL290. Our closest point to the other aircraft was 500 ft below with 2-3 mi separation. We were about 1000 ft below when we passed. Ny arinc confirmed our previous clearance, then patched us through to ATC. ATC noted the incident and cleared us to maintain FL290 until further advised by ZSU. Cause: ATC clearance. Solution: radar and satellite VHF communications are available on this oceanic route. Safety demands we have access to those facilities. HF patch from arinc to ATC is too slow and subject to errors. We need to communicate directly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT HAS TCASII RA AT HIGH ALT.
Narrative: I WAS THE FO AND PF ACR FLT XY, A LOCKHEED L-1011-50 FROM JFK TO SJU ON JUL/XX/94. AFTER GIVING OUR POS RPT OVER PRISS AT FL290 ON A 523, WE REQUESTED A CLB TO ANY HIGHER ALT UP TO FL370. A FEW MINS LATER, NY ARINC RETURNED WITH A CLRNC FROM NY OCEANIC ATC TO: 'MAINTAIN FL290 TO LADUE, THEN CLB TO AND MAINTAIN FL370.' AFTER PASSING LADUE (CONFIRMED BY XING RADIAL/DME FROM BDA), I INITIATED A 1500 FPM CLB TO FL370 AND RPTED LEAVING FL290 TO ARINC. AFTER PASSING FL300 WE RECEIVED A TCASII TA WHICH QUICKLY PROGRESSED TO AN RA FROM A TARGET AHEAD AT FL310 OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND CLOSING. I IMMEDIATELY BEGAN A DSCNT BACK TO FL290. OUR CLOSEST POINT TO THE OTHER ACFT WAS 500 FT BELOW WITH 2-3 MI SEPARATION. WE WERE ABOUT 1000 FT BELOW WHEN WE PASSED. NY ARINC CONFIRMED OUR PREVIOUS CLRNC, THEN PATCHED US THROUGH TO ATC. ATC NOTED THE INCIDENT AND CLRED US TO MAINTAIN FL290 UNTIL FURTHER ADVISED BY ZSU. CAUSE: ATC CLRNC. SOLUTION: RADAR AND SATELLITE VHF COMS ARE AVAILABLE ON THIS OCEANIC RTE. SAFETY DEMANDS WE HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE FACILITIES. HF PATCH FROM ARINC TO ATC IS TOO SLOW AND SUBJECT TO ERRORS. WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.