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Attributes | |
ACN | 278119 |
Time | |
Date | 199407 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jac |
State Reference | WY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6600 msl bound upper : 6600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Trojan (T28) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : go around |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Cessna Citation Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 278119 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 150 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On jul/fri/94 I was leading a 4 ship, T-28, pre-oshkosh training formation out of jac. On returning to jac from the north, I announced on unicom 122.8 our flight of 4's position at least 4 times and set up my flight on a 5 mi initial for runway 18. I broke up the flight into 2, 2-SHIP elements. I announced on unicom that we were making section lndgs on runway 18 and were 5 mi, and later, 1 mi, straight-in, 4 planes, full stop runway 18. There was a citation running up for a runway 18 IFR departure. She, the citation pilot, called that she was departing runway 18. I called her and she acknowledged she would wait for us. We landed the first section and, as we pulled off runway 18, we saw the citation lifting off runway 18 with 2 T-28's to her left on a 150 ft wave-off. We had pulled on the runway in the middle of a 4 plane landing, causing a very dangerous go around for the 2 t- 28's. I was rather angry and told her on unicom that she had almost caused an accident and 2 T-28's had gone around at 150 ft and 1/4 mi. She replied that she was on an IFR flight plan and in a hurry. One of the other T-28 pilots asked if she knew what the word courtesy meant. She said unicom is only advisory and basically, she could do whatever she wanted. She never announced on unicom her intention to depart 18, she just took the runway and took off. After the remainder of the flight landed, in our debriefing, we discussed the situation. We talked to FBO X and they told us the citation was with FBO Y out of cincinnati, oh. Upon returning to las cruces, NM, on tue, I called and talked to ms X at FBO Y and she confirmed that their aircraft was in jac at that time period and it was plted by a female pilot. I asked her to have their operations officer call me to discuss safety. I gave her my number, however, he has not returned my call.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN AN ATX JET THAT PULLED OUT IN FRONT OF FLT OF 2 TRAINING ACFT ON A SHORT FINAL AT AN UNCTLED ARPT.
Narrative: ON JUL/FRI/94 I WAS LEADING A 4 SHIP, T-28, PRE-OSHKOSH TRAINING FORMATION OUT OF JAC. ON RETURNING TO JAC FROM THE N, I ANNOUNCED ON UNICOM 122.8 OUR FLT OF 4'S POS AT LEAST 4 TIMES AND SET UP MY FLT ON A 5 MI INITIAL FOR RWY 18. I BROKE UP THE FLT INTO 2, 2-SHIP ELEMENTS. I ANNOUNCED ON UNICOM THAT WE WERE MAKING SECTION LNDGS ON RWY 18 AND WERE 5 MI, AND LATER, 1 MI, STRAIGHT-IN, 4 PLANES, FULL STOP RWY 18. THERE WAS A CITATION RUNNING UP FOR A RWY 18 IFR DEP. SHE, THE CITATION PLT, CALLED THAT SHE WAS DEPARTING RWY 18. I CALLED HER AND SHE ACKNOWLEDGED SHE WOULD WAIT FOR US. WE LANDED THE FIRST SECTION AND, AS WE PULLED OFF RWY 18, WE SAW THE CITATION LIFTING OFF RWY 18 WITH 2 T-28'S TO HER L ON A 150 FT WAVE-OFF. WE HAD PULLED ON THE RWY IN THE MIDDLE OF A 4 PLANE LNDG, CAUSING A VERY DANGEROUS GAR FOR THE 2 T- 28'S. I WAS RATHER ANGRY AND TOLD HER ON UNICOM THAT SHE HAD ALMOST CAUSED AN ACCIDENT AND 2 T-28'S HAD GONE AROUND AT 150 FT AND 1/4 MI. SHE REPLIED THAT SHE WAS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN AND IN A HURRY. ONE OF THE OTHER T-28 PLTS ASKED IF SHE KNEW WHAT THE WORD COURTESY MEANT. SHE SAID UNICOM IS ONLY ADVISORY AND BASICALLY, SHE COULD DO WHATEVER SHE WANTED. SHE NEVER ANNOUNCED ON UNICOM HER INTENTION TO DEPART 18, SHE JUST TOOK THE RWY AND TOOK OFF. AFTER THE REMAINDER OF THE FLT LANDED, IN OUR DEBRIEFING, WE DISCUSSED THE SIT. WE TALKED TO FBO X AND THEY TOLD US THE CITATION WAS WITH FBO Y OUT OF CINCINNATI, OH. UPON RETURNING TO LAS CRUCES, NM, ON TUE, I CALLED AND TALKED TO MS X AT FBO Y AND SHE CONFIRMED THAT THEIR ACFT WAS IN JAC AT THAT TIME PERIOD AND IT WAS PLTED BY A FEMALE PLT. I ASKED HER TO HAVE THEIR OPS OFFICER CALL ME TO DISCUSS SAFETY. I GAVE HER MY NUMBER, HOWEVER, HE HAS NOT RETURNED MY CALL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.