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Attributes | |
ACN | 279135 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sjc airport : rhv |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 1350 flight time type : 20 |
ASRS Report | 279135 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While en route from hayward airport to rhv airport I was receiving flight following from bay approach on 135.40. I was doing approximately 160 KTS because I was in contact with bay and receiving radar services I was headed right for san jose's class 'C' airspace. I believe that right as I was entering class C bay says, 'radar service terminated, squawk VFR, frequency change approved.' I continued turning out of class C airspace and landed at rhv. I was a little annoyed at the controller because when one is in a fast moving aircraft, one cannot pull up to an abrupt halt to assess airspace and options, especially when doing 160 KTS. I may have inadvertently entered the class 'C' airspace while making my frequency change to rhv tower. On the other hand, I may have been just inside the class 'C' when bay gave me the handoff. I think I will take a bay approach tour over at oakland and see if I can't get to the bottom of what the correct response on my part should have been. Perhaps I should have not accepted the frequency change until I asked if I should continue through class C. However, when I have questioned busy controllers in the past on such matters, they have seemed very uptight and too busy to deal with queries.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A SMA TWIN BELIEVES THAT HE INADVERTENTLY ENTERED CLASS C AIRSPACE AFTER ATC RADAR SVC WAS TERMINATED.
Narrative: WHILE ENRTE FROM HAYWARD ARPT TO RHV ARPT I WAS RECEIVING FLT FOLLOWING FROM BAY APCH ON 135.40. I WAS DOING APPROX 160 KTS BECAUSE I WAS IN CONTACT WITH BAY AND RECEIVING RADAR SVCS I WAS HEADED RIGHT FOR SAN JOSE'S CLASS 'C' AIRSPACE. I BELIEVE THAT RIGHT AS I WAS ENTERING CLASS C BAY SAYS, 'RADAR SVC TERMINATED, SQUAWK VFR, FREQ CHANGE APPROVED.' I CONTINUED TURNING OUT OF CLASS C AIRSPACE AND LANDED AT RHV. I WAS A LITTLE ANNOYED AT THE CTLR BECAUSE WHEN ONE IS IN A FAST MOVING ACFT, ONE CANNOT PULL UP TO AN ABRUPT HALT TO ASSESS AIRSPACE AND OPTIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN DOING 160 KTS. I MAY HAVE INADVERTENTLY ENTERED THE CLASS 'C' AIRSPACE WHILE MAKING MY FREQ CHANGE TO RHV TWR. ON THE OTHER HAND, I MAY HAVE BEEN JUST INSIDE THE CLASS 'C' WHEN BAY GAVE ME THE HDOF. I THINK I WILL TAKE A BAY APCH TOUR OVER AT OAKLAND AND SEE IF I CAN'T GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT THE CORRECT RESPONSE ON MY PART SHOULD HAVE BEEN. PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE NOT ACCEPTED THE FREQ CHANGE UNTIL I ASKED IF I SHOULD CONTINUE THROUGH CLASS C. HOWEVER, WHEN I HAVE QUESTIONED BUSY CTLRS IN THE PAST ON SUCH MATTERS, THEY HAVE SEEMED VERY UPTIGHT AND TOO BUSY TO DEAL WITH QUERIES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.