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Attributes | |
ACN | 280137 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz tower : pit |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff descent : holding ground : holding |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 280137 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : clearance delivery |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After starting engines at FBO for departure, contacted clearance delivery and requested a ssw departure. Clearance responded with 'proceed on course' and gave me a transponder code and departure control frequency. I completed takeoff with transponder code and immediately contacted departure control. Departure advised to contact tower whereupon I was informed that I had not been given 'takeoff clearance.' for helicopters, this is very confusing as many ground controls handle helicopter traffic given their departure characteristics and limited ability to change frequencys while hovering. Aim paragraph 4-63d addresses this problem. To prevent future problems, departure should remind pilot to contact tower for departure clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMS ATX HELI PLT FAILED TO OBTAIN TKOF CLRNC.
Narrative: AFTER STARTING ENGS AT FBO FOR DEP, CONTACTED CLRNC DELIVERY AND REQUESTED A SSW DEP. CLRNC RESPONDED WITH 'PROCEED ON COURSE' AND GAVE ME A XPONDER CODE AND DEP CTL FREQ. I COMPLETED TKOF WITH XPONDER CODE AND IMMEDIATELY CONTACTED DEP CTL. DEP ADVISED TO CONTACT TWR WHEREUPON I WAS INFORMED THAT I HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN 'TKOF CLRNC.' FOR HELIS, THIS IS VERY CONFUSING AS MANY GND CTLS HANDLE HELI TFC GIVEN THEIR DEP CHARACTERISTICS AND LIMITED ABILITY TO CHANGE FREQS WHILE HOVERING. AIM PARAGRAPH 4-63D ADDRESSES THIS PROB. TO PREVENT FUTURE PROBS, DEP SHOULD REMIND PLT TO CONTACT TWR FOR DEP CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.