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Attributes | |
ACN | 281036 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lga airport : n90 |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1100 msl bound upper : 1100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 9300 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 281036 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Arrived at the aircraft 30 mins before departure, which is normal. Did not have the predep clearance (pre departure clearance). ATIS was giving runway 13 for departure. I, as PF, briefed runway 13 with white stone climb. 3 mins before departure the gate agent arrived with the pre departure clearance. I looked at it but did not notice we were cleared runway 13 with maspeth climb. As we were turning out ATC (lga departure) asked what climb we were doing. We replied, 'the white stone climb.' ATC advised us we were supposed to be flying the maspeth climb. We (I) should not have briefed the departure without having the clearance. I should have double checked the clearance with what we had talked about.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT USES WRONG TRANSITION ON DEP SID.
Narrative: ARRIVED AT THE ACFT 30 MINS BEFORE DEP, WHICH IS NORMAL. DID NOT HAVE THE PREDEP CLRNC (PDC). ATIS WAS GIVING RWY 13 FOR DEP. I, AS PF, BRIEFED RWY 13 WITH WHITE STONE CLB. 3 MINS BEFORE DEP THE GATE AGENT ARRIVED WITH THE PDC. I LOOKED AT IT BUT DID NOT NOTICE WE WERE CLRED RWY 13 WITH MASPETH CLB. AS WE WERE TURNING OUT ATC (LGA DEP) ASKED WHAT CLB WE WERE DOING. WE REPLIED, 'THE WHITE STONE CLB.' ATC ADVISED US WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE FLYING THE MASPETH CLB. WE (I) SHOULD NOT HAVE BRIEFED THE DEP WITHOUT HAVING THE CLRNC. I SHOULD HAVE DOUBLE CHKED THE CLRNC WITH WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.