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Attributes | |
ACN | 281861 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : tgl |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : edbt |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 196 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 3330 |
ASRS Report | 281861 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Approximately 30 NM out on arrival to edbt after ocean crossing and intermediate stop at hamburg (eddh). We were cleared from FL70 to 3000 ft and cleared for the approach. The ILS had been idented by the pilot in relief seat, all checks had been completed down to 'landing.' captain flying began an aggressive descent, as he had gotten down early for arrival into eddh, and I was initially distracted by call for flaps 5 degrees while we were above flap speed. He then called for gear to slow us but kept descent rate. At about 4000 ft I saw that the GS had captured on the ILS flight director. On arrival, earlier, to hamburg we were instructed to follow GS down even though we hadn't captured the localizer and I think that was part of the mindset. The first officer then called going through 2700 ft and I as PNF concerned that we were through the altitude and that we were 17 NM from normal 3000 ft GS intercept point. I recycled the flight director and re- engaged the approach command and it captured GS (falsely) again, although it did blink several times. Approach control called us about our altitude which now was 2200 ft. Thereafter, we descended to 2000 ft then climbed to 3000 ft and reintercepted the localizer and GS. All else was normal thereafter.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC DSNDS BELOW GS ALT ON ILS APCH.
Narrative: APPROX 30 NM OUT ON ARR TO EDBT AFTER OCEAN XING AND INTERMEDIATE STOP AT HAMBURG (EDDH). WE WERE CLRED FROM FL70 TO 3000 FT AND CLRED FOR THE APCH. THE ILS HAD BEEN IDENTED BY THE PLT IN RELIEF SEAT, ALL CHKS HAD BEEN COMPLETED DOWN TO 'LNDG.' CAPT FLYING BEGAN AN AGGRESSIVE DSCNT, AS HE HAD GOTTEN DOWN EARLY FOR ARR INTO EDDH, AND I WAS INITIALLY DISTRACTED BY CALL FOR FLAPS 5 DEGS WHILE WE WERE ABOVE FLAP SPD. HE THEN CALLED FOR GEAR TO SLOW US BUT KEPT DSCNT RATE. AT ABOUT 4000 FT I SAW THAT THE GS HAD CAPTURED ON THE ILS FLT DIRECTOR. ON ARR, EARLIER, TO HAMBURG WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO FOLLOW GS DOWN EVEN THOUGH WE HADN'T CAPTURED THE LOC AND I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE MINDSET. THE FO THEN CALLED GOING THROUGH 2700 FT AND I AS PNF CONCERNED THAT WE WERE THROUGH THE ALT AND THAT WE WERE 17 NM FROM NORMAL 3000 FT GS INTERCEPT POINT. I RECYCLED THE FLT DIRECTOR AND RE- ENGAGED THE APCH COMMAND AND IT CAPTURED GS (FALSELY) AGAIN, ALTHOUGH IT DID BLINK SEVERAL TIMES. APCH CTL CALLED US ABOUT OUR ALT WHICH NOW WAS 2200 FT. THEREAFTER, WE DSNDED TO 2000 FT THEN CLBED TO 3000 FT AND REINTERCEPTED THE LOC AND GS. ALL ELSE WAS NORMAL THEREAFTER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.