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Attributes | |
ACN | 281883 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phx |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 2320 |
ASRS Report | 281883 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7920 flight time type : 4320 |
ASRS Report | 282021 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During engine start, captain told me to start the remaining engine. Our procedure is to close the isolation valve and turn on the right pack after the start valve closes and the red overheat limit line disappears from the egt gauge on the CRT. I was surprised to see that the starter was still on. After a few seconds, the right start switch moved to automatic and a few seconds later, the valve light extinguished indicating the valve was closed. The slow moving start valve broke my routine and I turned on the right pack without referencing the right egt limit line. I then began the start sequence on the left engine. After that engine started, I began the flow pattern for after engine start. At this time the captain noticed the right engine egt was in the red. He shut down the engine. We motored the engine to cool it. The limit was exceeded by 11 degrees to 496 degrees. It was red for just a few seconds. We informed the mechanic of the overheat and our intention to restart the engine. He concurred. The engine was restarted and operated normally to destination. At destination, it was determined by maintenance that the engine required a visual inspection. It was hot, the airplane was full, and we wanted our passenger to make their connections. I should have suggested we consider returning to the gate to discuss the situation in further detail with maintenance prior to departing the field.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HOT START.
Narrative: DURING ENG START, CAPT TOLD ME TO START THE REMAINING ENG. OUR PROC IS TO CLOSE THE ISOLATION VALVE AND TURN ON THE R PACK AFTER THE START VALVE CLOSES AND THE RED OVERHEAT LIMIT LINE DISAPPEARS FROM THE EGT GAUGE ON THE CRT. I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THE STARTER WAS STILL ON. AFTER A FEW SECONDS, THE R START SWITCH MOVED TO AUTO AND A FEW SECONDS LATER, THE VALVE LIGHT EXTINGUISHED INDICATING THE VALVE WAS CLOSED. THE SLOW MOVING START VALVE BROKE MY ROUTINE AND I TURNED ON THE RIGHT PACK WITHOUT REFERENCING THE R EGT LIMIT LINE. I THEN BEGAN THE START SEQUENCE ON THE L ENG. AFTER THAT ENG STARTED, I BEGAN THE FLOW PATTERN FOR AFTER ENG START. AT THIS TIME THE CAPT NOTICED THE R ENG EGT WAS IN THE RED. HE SHUT DOWN THE ENG. WE MOTORED THE ENG TO COOL IT. THE LIMIT WAS EXCEEDED BY 11 DEGS TO 496 DEGS. IT WAS RED FOR JUST A FEW SECONDS. WE INFORMED THE MECH OF THE OVERHEAT AND OUR INTENTION TO RESTART THE ENG. HE CONCURRED. THE ENG WAS RESTARTED AND OPERATED NORMALLY TO DEST. AT DEST, IT WAS DETERMINED BY MAINT THAT THE ENG REQUIRED A VISUAL INSPECTION. IT WAS HOT, THE AIRPLANE WAS FULL, AND WE WANTED OUR PAX TO MAKE THEIR CONNECTIONS. I SHOULD HAVE SUGGESTED WE CONSIDER RETURNING TO THE GATE TO DISCUSS THE SIT IN FURTHER DETAIL WITH MAINT PRIOR TO DEPARTING THE FIELD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.