Narrative:

I departed kardy airfield, which is inside of randolph AFB class D airspace, under control of randolph tower. I took off of runway 15 and randolph was using runway 14. My instructions from randolph tower were to fly runway heading. My destination was stinson field south of san antonio which would take me across the departure corridor of randolph. Randolph tower then instructed me to hold a 150 degree heading (runway heading) for the next 5 mi and contact san antonio approach on 128.xx. When I checked in with approach control I told them of my restr of holding 150 degrees for the next 5 mi. They acknowledged and about a min later, they told me to turn right to 200 degrees. I assumed that they had coordinated that over the land-line with randolph. About 15 seconds later, I looked and saw a second T-38 coming right at me. (The 1ST T-38 went above and in front of me). After I saw the 2ND one, I started a descent because I could see he would be going above me. The 2ND T-38 went about 300 ft above me. Approach control called out the second T-38 just before he went above me. Once on the ground, I called randolph tower to discuss the situation. They told me that they expected me on a 150 degree heading so they did not call me as traffic to the 1ST T-38. They did, however, call me out to the 2ND T-38. They also said that the second T-38 did have me in sight, but he made no effort to alter his flight path when I saw him. Randolph tower also said that I was turning 200 degrees before san antonio approach called them on the land-line to tell them that I was turning. I called san antonio approach and asked them to look into the situation, as well. I can think of 2 reasons why this near miss happened. 1) san antonio departure turned me through randolph's class D airspace without coordinating with randolph tower first. 2) I could have been at the edge of the class D airspace (I had no DME) and the 200 degree heading would have just kept me out. If this were the case, it was a simple case of 'see and avoid' in VMC conditions between myself and the T-38's. The 2ND T-38 was coming directly at me from my 3 O'clock position. I could do nothing but continue straight ahead and descend to avoid the mid- air. The 2ND T-38 on the other hand, could have altered his course or climbed steeper in order to ensure a more acceptable miss distance (I am a military pilot and I know the capabilities of the T-38).

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SMA IN CONTACT WITH MIL TWR AND TRACON HAS NMAC WITH MTR'S.

Narrative: I DEPARTED KARDY AIRFIELD, WHICH IS INSIDE OF RANDOLPH AFB CLASS D AIRSPACE, UNDER CTL OF RANDOLPH TWR. I TOOK OFF OF RWY 15 AND RANDOLPH WAS USING RWY 14. MY INSTRUCTIONS FROM RANDOLPH TWR WERE TO FLY RWY HDG. MY DEST WAS STINSON FIELD S OF SAN ANTONIO WHICH WOULD TAKE ME ACROSS THE DEP CORRIDOR OF RANDOLPH. RANDOLPH TWR THEN INSTRUCTED ME TO HOLD A 150 DEG HDG (RWY HDG) FOR THE NEXT 5 MI AND CONTACT SAN ANTONIO APCH ON 128.XX. WHEN I CHKED IN WITH APCH CTL I TOLD THEM OF MY RESTR OF HOLDING 150 DEGS FOR THE NEXT 5 MI. THEY ACKNOWLEDGED AND ABOUT A MIN LATER, THEY TOLD ME TO TURN R TO 200 DEGS. I ASSUMED THAT THEY HAD COORDINATED THAT OVER THE LAND-LINE WITH RANDOLPH. ABOUT 15 SECONDS LATER, I LOOKED AND SAW A SECOND T-38 COMING RIGHT AT ME. (THE 1ST T-38 WENT ABOVE AND IN FRONT OF ME). AFTER I SAW THE 2ND ONE, I STARTED A DSCNT BECAUSE I COULD SEE HE WOULD BE GOING ABOVE ME. THE 2ND T-38 WENT ABOUT 300 FT ABOVE ME. APCH CTL CALLED OUT THE SECOND T-38 JUST BEFORE HE WENT ABOVE ME. ONCE ON THE GND, I CALLED RANDOLPH TWR TO DISCUSS THE SIT. THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY EXPECTED ME ON A 150 DEG HDG SO THEY DID NOT CALL ME AS TFC TO THE 1ST T-38. THEY DID, HOWEVER, CALL ME OUT TO THE 2ND T-38. THEY ALSO SAID THAT THE SECOND T-38 DID HAVE ME IN SIGHT, BUT HE MADE NO EFFORT TO ALTER HIS FLT PATH WHEN I SAW HIM. RANDOLPH TWR ALSO SAID THAT I WAS TURNING 200 DEGS BEFORE SAN ANTONIO APCH CALLED THEM ON THE LAND-LINE TO TELL THEM THAT I WAS TURNING. I CALLED SAN ANTONIO APCH AND ASKED THEM TO LOOK INTO THE SIT, AS WELL. I CAN THINK OF 2 REASONS WHY THIS NEAR MISS HAPPENED. 1) SAN ANTONIO DEP TURNED ME THROUGH RANDOLPH'S CLASS D AIRSPACE WITHOUT COORDINATING WITH RANDOLPH TWR FIRST. 2) I COULD HAVE BEEN AT THE EDGE OF THE CLASS D AIRSPACE (I HAD NO DME) AND THE 200 DEG HDG WOULD HAVE JUST KEPT ME OUT. IF THIS WERE THE CASE, IT WAS A SIMPLE CASE OF 'SEE AND AVOID' IN VMC CONDITIONS BTWN MYSELF AND THE T-38'S. THE 2ND T-38 WAS COMING DIRECTLY AT ME FROM MY 3 O'CLOCK POS. I COULD DO NOTHING BUT CONTINUE STRAIGHT AHEAD AND DSND TO AVOID THE MID- AIR. THE 2ND T-38 ON THE OTHER HAND, COULD HAVE ALTERED HIS COURSE OR CLBED STEEPER IN ORDER TO ENSURE A MORE ACCEPTABLE MISS DISTANCE (I AM A MIL PLT AND I KNOW THE CAPABILITIES OF THE T-38).

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.