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Attributes | |
ACN | 283614 |
Time | |
Date | 199409 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cle |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cle |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : cle |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 5100 flight time type : 240 |
ASRS Report | 283614 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
The aircraft I was flying developed a bleed problem. I decided to remain close to the cle airport, burn off fuel to reach landing weight, land, and have maintenance look at the problem. I asked ATC for vectors back to the airport for landing. Then, I asked for a hold somewhere to burn off fuel in order to reach landing weight. I talked by radio to our maintenance control about the bleed problem. My copilot told ATC we had a bleed problem. ATC somehow thought we were declaring an emergency when neither of us was? When I got on the ground, the company wanted to know why I declared an emergency when I did not? To date, I am still not sure if ATC though I was declaring an emergency, if my copilot declared one, or what happened? That is the reason for this. This whole situation is just bad communication.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR ATC MISCOM.
Narrative: THE ACFT I WAS FLYING DEVELOPED A BLEED PROB. I DECIDED TO REMAIN CLOSE TO THE CLE ARPT, BURN OFF FUEL TO REACH LNDG WT, LAND, AND HAVE MAINT LOOK AT THE PROB. I ASKED ATC FOR VECTORS BACK TO THE ARPT FOR LNDG. THEN, I ASKED FOR A HOLD SOMEWHERE TO BURN OFF FUEL IN ORDER TO REACH LNDG WT. I TALKED BY RADIO TO OUR MAINT CTL ABOUT THE BLEED PROB. MY COPLT TOLD ATC WE HAD A BLEED PROB. ATC SOMEHOW THOUGHT WE WERE DECLARING AN EMER WHEN NEITHER OF US WAS? WHEN I GOT ON THE GND, THE COMPANY WANTED TO KNOW WHY I DECLARED AN EMER WHEN I DID NOT? TO DATE, I AM STILL NOT SURE IF ATC THOUGH I WAS DECLARING AN EMER, IF MY COPLT DECLARED ONE, OR WHAT HAPPENED? THAT IS THE REASON FOR THIS. THIS WHOLE SIT IS JUST BAD COM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.