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Attributes | |
ACN | 284304 |
Time | |
Date | 199409 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lms airport : mggt |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 34500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : mhtg |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise other other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 2206 flight time type : 606 |
ASRS Report | 284304 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : declared emergency |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On the ground in mggt we were cleared to FL330. After takeoff we received a revised clearance to FL350. I voiced concern to my captain about the higher flight level due to a main right fuel pump malfunction. I asked the captain to request FL330 or lower. I asked him repeatedly (3 times) but he totally overlooked my concern and joked about it. After climbing above FL220 the airplane flight manual for the hfb 320 hansa recommends a constant recommended mach number of 0.55. I adjusted the pitch angle and maintained same. At FL345 approaching lamesa VOR the right engine checklist ('engine air start') which I did not receive from my captain. The captain requested descent down to FL200 from cenamer. Cenamer asked us if we needed any assistance which the captain responded negatively to, and I again called for emergency checklist ('engine air start') which I did not receive. At this time cenamer called us again for verification that we requested FL200. Captain preoccupied and ignored the call from cenamer. I answered and requested descent to FL310 which was granted. At this point we had no power on the right engine and the engine was windmilling at 27 percent. I asked again for emergency checklist (engine air start) and this time captain picked up the emergency checklist and tried to find 'engine air start.' after locating the engine air start, we complied with the instruction to continue descending to the flight level within the windmilling envelope in order to restart the engine. Cenamer made a call to us and asked about our FL290 which was granted. At approximately FL295 we had re-light on the engine and power was slowly restored. We requested permission to climb to FL310 from cenamer which was granted. Upon approaching FL310 the right engine 'flamed out' again. I again called for emergency checklist for engine air start. Captain produced same. We began descent and requested lower flight lease with cenamer of 290 ft which was granted. We proceeded again with engine air start instruction and at this time we lost right and left generator, alternator and inverter. I asked captain to request flight level below 240 ft. At approximately flight level 290 ft the right engine was restarted and we were able to maintain altitude. I still wanted to descend below FL240 because of electrical failure, however, after 4 or 5 attempts we were also able to restore electrical power (generator 1 and 2, alternator 1 and 2 and inverter). Therefore, we requested to maintain our flight level of FL290 but cenamer was unable to grant our request. FL280 was available and we maintained FL280 with no further complications. I submit this report due to the fact that I believe captain determined not to file a report concerning this situation except to verbally advise the president of atx. I am documenting this occurrence at the request of the president of atx.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NO. 1 ENG FLAMED OUT TWICE.
Narrative: ON THE GND IN MGGT WE WERE CLRED TO FL330. AFTER TKOF WE RECEIVED A REVISED CLRNC TO FL350. I VOICED CONCERN TO MY CAPTAIN ABOUT THE HIGHER FLT LEVEL DUE TO A MAIN R FUEL PUMP MALFUNCTION. I ASKED THE CAPT TO REQUEST FL330 OR LOWER. I ASKED HIM REPEATEDLY (3 TIMES) BUT HE TOTALLY OVERLOOKED MY CONCERN AND JOKED ABOUT IT. AFTER CLBING ABOVE FL220 THE AIRPLANE FLT MANUAL FOR THE HFB 320 HANSA RECOMMENDS A CONSTANT RECOMMENDED MACH NUMBER OF 0.55. I ADJUSTED THE PITCH ANGLE AND MAINTAINED SAME. AT FL345 APCHING LAMESA VOR THE R ENG CHKLIST ('ENG AIR START') WHICH I DID NOT RECEIVE FROM MY CAPT. THE CAPT REQUESTED DSCNT DOWN TO FL200 FROM CENAMER. CENAMER ASKED US IF WE NEEDED ANY ASSISTANCE WHICH THE CAPT RESPONDED NEGATIVELY TO, AND I AGAIN CALLED FOR EMER CHKLIST ('ENG AIR START') WHICH I DID NOT RECEIVE. AT THIS TIME CENAMER CALLED US AGAIN FOR VERIFICATION THAT WE REQUESTED FL200. CAPT PREOCCUPIED AND IGNORED THE CALL FROM CENAMER. I ANSWERED AND REQUESTED DSCNT TO FL310 WHICH WAS GRANTED. AT THIS POINT WE HAD NO PWR ON THE R ENG AND THE ENG WAS WINDMILLING AT 27 PERCENT. I ASKED AGAIN FOR EMER CHKLIST (ENG AIR START) AND THIS TIME CAPT PICKED UP THE EMER CHKLIST AND TRIED TO FIND 'ENG AIR START.' AFTER LOCATING THE ENG AIR START, WE COMPLIED WITH THE INSTRUCTION TO CONTINUE DSNDING TO THE FLT LEVEL WITHIN THE WINDMILLING ENVELOPE IN ORDER TO RESTART THE ENG. CENAMER MADE A CALL TO US AND ASKED ABOUT OUR FL290 WHICH WAS GRANTED. AT APPROX FL295 WE HAD RE-LIGHT ON THE ENG AND PWR WAS SLOWLY RESTORED. WE REQUESTED PERMISSION TO CLB TO FL310 FROM CENAMER WHICH WAS GRANTED. UPON APCHING FL310 THE R ENG 'FLAMED OUT' AGAIN. I AGAIN CALLED FOR EMER CHKLIST FOR ENG AIR START. CAPT PRODUCED SAME. WE BEGAN DSCNT AND REQUESTED LOWER FLT LEASE WITH CENAMER OF 290 FT WHICH WAS GRANTED. WE PROCEEDED AGAIN WITH ENG AIR START INSTRUCTION AND AT THIS TIME WE LOST R AND L GENERATOR, ALTERNATOR AND INVERTER. I ASKED CAPT TO REQUEST FLT LEVEL BELOW 240 FT. AT APPROX FLT LEVEL 290 FT THE R ENG WAS RESTARTED AND WE WERE ABLE TO MAINTAIN ALT. I STILL WANTED TO DSND BELOW FL240 BECAUSE OF ELECTRICAL FAILURE, HOWEVER, AFTER 4 OR 5 ATTEMPTS WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO RESTORE ELECTRICAL PWR (GENERATOR 1 AND 2, ALTERNATOR 1 AND 2 AND INVERTER). THEREFORE, WE REQUESTED TO MAINTAIN OUR FLT LEVEL OF FL290 BUT CENAMER WAS UNABLE TO GRANT OUR REQUEST. FL280 WAS AVAILABLE AND WE MAINTAINED FL280 WITH NO FURTHER COMPLICATIONS. I SUBMIT THIS RPT DUE TO THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE CAPT DETERMINED NOT TO FILE A RPT CONCERNING THIS SIT EXCEPT TO VERBALLY ADVISE THE PRESIDENT OF ATX. I AM DOCUMENTING THIS OCCURRENCE AT THE REQUEST OF THE PRESIDENT OF ATX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.