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Attributes | |
ACN | 287041 |
Time | |
Date | 199410 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 287041 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
On outer, cleared to cross runway 22 (active landing runway) at foxtrot to join bb. Aircraft ended up on southwest side of foxtrot outside of unlit blue taxiway lights. The captain stopped the aircraft and, after discussing with me, he requested a 180 degree to rejoin foxtrot. Ground permitted us to do so. Captain woke up at 0400 and on duty since 0600. First officer woke up at 0600 on duty at 0800. 5 mins prior, discussed how tired we were. Light rain, construction to foxtrot. No perimeter taxiway lights, no centerline lights. No painted taxiway centerline. Forward of aircraft bright road lights obstructing vision. Captain stopped aircraft and crew discussed options and obstacles. Requested permission from ground. Then we taxied aircraft. Airport should close txwys that are not distinguishable. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states the ramp lights ahead of them were a great part of the problem. There are 4 large lights which blind a flight crew as they taxi in that direction. Also the yellow line ended and flight crew thought it would pick up again after they crossed the runway and it did not. The taxiway there takes a bend but there is no line to indicate it does so. That is when flight crew taxied straight ahead and had the mixup. Reporter stated there seems to be a constant state of construction going on and lights and markings are just non existent. The night aspect only aggravated the situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER CLRED TO TAXI ACROSS RWY AND FOLLOW ASSIGNED TXWY. NOT TXWY MARKINGS ON OTHER SIDE. TXWY EXCURSION.
Narrative: ON OUTER, CLRED TO CROSS RWY 22 (ACTIVE LNDG RWY) AT FOXTROT TO JOIN BB. ACFT ENDED UP ON SW SIDE OF FOXTROT OUTSIDE OF UNLIT BLUE TXWY LIGHTS. THE CAPT STOPPED THE ACFT AND, AFTER DISCUSSING WITH ME, HE REQUESTED A 180 DEG TO REJOIN FOXTROT. GND PERMITTED US TO DO SO. CAPT WOKE UP AT 0400 AND ON DUTY SINCE 0600. FO WOKE UP AT 0600 ON DUTY AT 0800. 5 MINS PRIOR, DISCUSSED HOW TIRED WE WERE. LIGHT RAIN, CONSTRUCTION TO FOXTROT. NO PERIMETER TXWY LIGHTS, NO CTRLINE LIGHTS. NO PAINTED TXWY CTRLINE. FORWARD OF ACFT BRIGHT ROAD LIGHTS OBSTRUCTING VISION. CAPT STOPPED ACFT AND CREW DISCUSSED OPTIONS AND OBSTACLES. REQUESTED PERMISSION FROM GND. THEN WE TAXIED ACFT. ARPT SHOULD CLOSE TXWYS THAT ARE NOT DISTINGUISHABLE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES THE RAMP LIGHTS AHEAD OF THEM WERE A GREAT PART OF THE PROB. THERE ARE 4 LARGE LIGHTS WHICH BLIND A FLC AS THEY TAXI IN THAT DIRECTION. ALSO THE YELLOW LINE ENDED AND FLC THOUGHT IT WOULD PICK UP AGAIN AFTER THEY CROSSED THE RWY AND IT DID NOT. THE TXWY THERE TAKES A BEND BUT THERE IS NO LINE TO INDICATE IT DOES SO. THAT IS WHEN FLC TAXIED STRAIGHT AHEAD AND HAD THE MIXUP. RPTR STATED THERE SEEMS TO BE A CONSTANT STATE OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON AND LIGHTS AND MARKINGS ARE JUST NON EXISTENT. THE NIGHT ASPECT ONLY AGGRAVATED THE SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.