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Attributes | |
ACN | 289821 |
Time | |
Date | 199411 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord tracon : cvg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 4400 flight time type : 850 |
ASRS Report | 289921 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After departing runway 4L at ord we were given a 360 degree heading to comply with O'hare 9 departure. We were in a climb at maximum takeoff weight for our aircraft, which limited our climb performance. Winds in the area at 3000 ft were forecast at 200 degrees at 44 KTS, which gave us a sizable tailwind. With the weight and tailwind, we were unable to comply with the O'hare 9 departure, which the altitude should be 3000 ft MSL at 5 NM (we were at 2500 ft MSL) and 400 ft MSL by 8 NM (we were at approximately 3400 ft MSL at 8 DME). The crew should have informed ATC that we could not comply with the SID. We could have taken a turn to stay inside the published altitude and distance requirements.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER MDT FAILS TO MEET THE CLB REQUIREMENTS OF THE O'HARE 9 SID.
Narrative: AFTER DEPARTING RWY 4L AT ORD WE WERE GIVEN A 360 DEG HDG TO COMPLY WITH O'HARE 9 DEP. WE WERE IN A CLB AT MAX TKOF WT FOR OUR ACFT, WHICH LIMITED OUR CLB PERFORMANCE. WINDS IN THE AREA AT 3000 FT WERE FORECAST AT 200 DEGS AT 44 KTS, WHICH GAVE US A SIZABLE TAILWIND. WITH THE WT AND TAILWIND, WE WERE UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH THE O'HARE 9 DEP, WHICH THE ALT SHOULD BE 3000 FT MSL AT 5 NM (WE WERE AT 2500 FT MSL) AND 400 FT MSL BY 8 NM (WE WERE AT APPROX 3400 FT MSL AT 8 DME). THE CREW SHOULD HAVE INFORMED ATC THAT WE COULD NOT COMPLY WITH THE SID. WE COULD HAVE TAKEN A TURN TO STAY INSIDE THE PUBLISHED ALT AND DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.