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Attributes | |
ACN | 289937 |
Time | |
Date | 199411 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fat |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sdf |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : fat |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 289937 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On a vector heading 040 degrees climbing out of fresno, departure advised VFR traffic at about 1:30 or 2 O'clock position at 8500 ft. We were told to level off at 8000 ft. Climbing through about 6500 ft we made visual contact with traffic and advised departure control, at which time they told us to continue to 10000 ft and maintain visual separation. TCASII had by then given us a TA. I judged by our relative motion that the traffic would pass behind us by a safe margin and continued the climb. As we got closer it appeared we were on converging courses. Judging our rate of climb and the distance between us I elected to continue the climb even though the TCASII was now telling us to descend. I figured our rate of climb made it unwise to descend. We had enough energy to make an evasive maneuver but I didn't feel it was necessary. As we passed the traffic we realized it was a much closer encounter than we had planned on. On receiving departure controls initial advisory on the traffic, I commented that it made good sense to level off at 8000 ft. Why I continued to climb after they told us to maintain our own separation, I don't know. At the time it didn't look close. In retrospect, it was very close. This whole episode was stupidity personified on my part. I was glad none of the passenger asked us if we had seen the light airplane we passed, because I couldn't think of any honest and sane answers.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD-80 CONTINUES CLB WHILE TCASII INDICATES DSND. NMAC.
Narrative: ON A VECTOR HDG 040 DEGS CLBING OUT OF FRESNO, DEP ADVISED VFR TFC AT ABOUT 1:30 OR 2 O'CLOCK POS AT 8500 FT. WE WERE TOLD TO LEVEL OFF AT 8000 FT. CLBING THROUGH ABOUT 6500 FT WE MADE VISUAL CONTACT WITH TFC AND ADVISED DEP CTL, AT WHICH TIME THEY TOLD US TO CONTINUE TO 10000 FT AND MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. TCASII HAD BY THEN GIVEN US A TA. I JUDGED BY OUR RELATIVE MOTION THAT THE TFC WOULD PASS BEHIND US BY A SAFE MARGIN AND CONTINUED THE CLB. AS WE GOT CLOSER IT APPEARED WE WERE ON CONVERGING COURSES. JUDGING OUR RATE OF CLB AND THE DISTANCE BTWN US I ELECTED TO CONTINUE THE CLB EVEN THOUGH THE TCASII WAS NOW TELLING US TO DSND. I FIGURED OUR RATE OF CLB MADE IT UNWISE TO DSND. WE HAD ENOUGH ENERGY TO MAKE AN EVASIVE MANEUVER BUT I DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS NECESSARY. AS WE PASSED THE TFC WE REALIZED IT WAS A MUCH CLOSER ENCOUNTER THAN WE HAD PLANNED ON. ON RECEIVING DEP CTLS INITIAL ADVISORY ON THE TFC, I COMMENTED THAT IT MADE GOOD SENSE TO LEVEL OFF AT 8000 FT. WHY I CONTINUED TO CLB AFTER THEY TOLD US TO MAINTAIN OUR OWN SEPARATION, I DON'T KNOW. AT THE TIME IT DIDN'T LOOK CLOSE. IN RETROSPECT, IT WAS VERY CLOSE. THIS WHOLE EPISODE WAS STUPIDITY PERSONIFIED ON MY PART. I WAS GLAD NONE OF THE PAX ASKED US IF WE HAD SEEN THE LIGHT AIRPLANE WE PASSED, BECAUSE I COULDN'T THINK OF ANY HONEST AND SANE ANSWERS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.