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Attributes | |
ACN | 290210 |
Time | |
Date | 199412 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : avl |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff landing other other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 650 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 290210 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I am the chief flight instructor at the aa center and have been in this position for only a week when this incident occurred. I currently have 650 total hours and 21 hours of instruction time. On dec/yy/94, at approximately AB30 hours, myself and a student were practicing takeoffs and lndgs at avl in a cessna 172. We had initially started flying using headsets with the radios being monitored through the headsets. After the first landing, my student stated that he would prefer to continue the flight without the use of the headsets as he felt they were too constrictive and he didn't feel comfortable using them. I said okay and we both took our headsets off and put them in the back seat. I failed at this time to insure that the radios were being monitored on the overhead speaker in the cockpit. We got involved in the lesson doing several touch and goes (approximately 5) and I failed to notice that we had not heard from the tower during this time. When I did notice the speaker button was not in the proper position. I immediately pushed the button and made contact with the tower. I stated at that time that I had failed to insure that we had appropriate communication with ATC during the flight. They terminated the flight and I was instructed to telephone the tower as soon as possible. We taxied to the ramp and I telephoned the tower from my office at the aa center and spoke with the supervisor of the tower/approach for the afternoon. He made me aware of the impact of my error. I recognize that the incident was my own fault as the PIC of the aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NO AIR GND COM WITH TWR DURING TOUCH AND GO LNDGS.
Narrative: I AM THE CHIEF FLT INSTRUCTOR AT THE AA CTR AND HAVE BEEN IN THIS POS FOR ONLY A WEEK WHEN THIS INCIDENT OCCURRED. I CURRENTLY HAVE 650 TOTAL HRS AND 21 HRS OF INSTRUCTION TIME. ON DEC/YY/94, AT APPROX AB30 HRS, MYSELF AND A STUDENT WERE PRACTICING TKOFS AND LNDGS AT AVL IN A CESSNA 172. WE HAD INITIALLY STARTED FLYING USING HEADSETS WITH THE RADIOS BEING MONITORED THROUGH THE HEADSETS. AFTER THE FIRST LNDG, MY STUDENT STATED THAT HE WOULD PREFER TO CONTINUE THE FLT WITHOUT THE USE OF THE HEADSETS AS HE FELT THEY WERE TOO CONSTRICTIVE AND HE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE USING THEM. I SAID OKAY AND WE BOTH TOOK OUR HEADSETS OFF AND PUT THEM IN THE BACK SEAT. I FAILED AT THIS TIME TO INSURE THAT THE RADIOS WERE BEING MONITORED ON THE OVERHEAD SPEAKER IN THE COCKPIT. WE GOT INVOLVED IN THE LESSON DOING SEVERAL TOUCH AND GOES (APPROX 5) AND I FAILED TO NOTICE THAT WE HAD NOT HEARD FROM THE TWR DURING THIS TIME. WHEN I DID NOTICE THE SPEAKER BUTTON WAS NOT IN THE PROPER POS. I IMMEDIATELY PUSHED THE BUTTON AND MADE CONTACT WITH THE TWR. I STATED AT THAT TIME THAT I HAD FAILED TO INSURE THAT WE HAD APPROPRIATE COM WITH ATC DURING THE FLT. THEY TERMINATED THE FLT AND I WAS INSTRUCTED TO TELEPHONE THE TWR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE TAXIED TO THE RAMP AND I TELEPHONED THE TWR FROM MY OFFICE AT THE AA CTR AND SPOKE WITH THE SUPVR OF THE TWR/APCH FOR THE AFTERNOON. HE MADE ME AWARE OF THE IMPACT OF MY ERROR. I RECOGNIZE THAT THE INCIDENT WAS MY OWN FAULT AS THE PIC OF THE ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.