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Attributes | |
ACN | 290741 |
Time | |
Date | 199411 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : anc |
State Reference | AK |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : phl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 11000 |
ASRS Report | 290741 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were scheduled to depart approximately 1 hour after aircraft arrival. There was intermittent light snow falling and the temperature was 16 degrees fahrenheit. On arrival at the aircraft we noted a small amount of powdery snow on it that we could blow off with a light breath. We checked the fom which stated 'crew members are prohibited under far 121.629 from attempting a takeoff when frost, snow, or ice is adhering to the wings or control surfaces of the aircraft.' we also had maintenance inspect the wings before pushback to see if we needed deicing. They said no snow was sticking. We departed with no problems. We checked the fom more thoroughly when en route and decided we should have been deiced. We were lured into accepting the aircraft by the word 'adhering.' I recommend it be changed if the intent is for the aircraft to be completely clean.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR TOOK OFF WITH SNOW ON WINGS.
Narrative: WE WERE SCHEDULED TO DEPART APPROX 1 HR AFTER ACFT ARR. THERE WAS INTERMITTENT LIGHT SNOW FALLING AND THE TEMP WAS 16 DEGS FAHRENHEIT. ON ARR AT THE ACFT WE NOTED A SMALL AMOUNT OF POWDERY SNOW ON IT THAT WE COULD BLOW OFF WITH A LIGHT BREATH. WE CHKED THE FOM WHICH STATED 'CREW MEMBERS ARE PROHIBITED UNDER FAR 121.629 FROM ATTEMPTING A TKOF WHEN FROST, SNOW, OR ICE IS ADHERING TO THE WINGS OR CTL SURFACES OF THE ACFT.' WE ALSO HAD MAINT INSPECT THE WINGS BEFORE PUSHBACK TO SEE IF WE NEEDED DEICING. THEY SAID NO SNOW WAS STICKING. WE DEPARTED WITH NO PROBS. WE CHKED THE FOM MORE THOROUGHLY WHEN ENRTE AND DECIDED WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DEICED. WE WERE LURED INTO ACCEPTING THE ACFT BY THE WORD 'ADHERING.' I RECOMMEND IT BE CHANGED IF THE INTENT IS FOR THE ACFT TO BE COMPLETELY CLEAN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.