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Attributes | |
ACN | 290743 |
Time | |
Date | 199411 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : phl |
State Reference | PA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Metro Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4300 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 290743 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Captain and I were operating flight, phl orh, last leg. First day of a 3 day trip. We were waiting for departure from runway 35 -- full length. A metropolitan landed. Shortly after we were cleared for takeoff and executed a normal takeoff. As we rotated the tower asked the metropolitan to 'expedite clearing the active.' we looked over the nose of our aircraft, a DH8, and saw a metropolitan still taxiing on runway 35, 300 or 400 yards from the end. We were both very surprised as neither one of us had seen him. This incident was a reminder of how difficult it is to see aircraft on the ground at night, especially when they are 5000 ft away. Msu -- credit goes to the tower controller. Although he screwed up by giving us our takeoff clearance. He would have made things much worse if he had pointed it out to us near V1 -- if we had attempted an abort then it is doubtful we could have stopped without either hitting the metropolitan or, more likely, running off the runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: OPERROR.
Narrative: CAPT AND I WERE OPERATING FLT, PHL ORH, LAST LEG. FIRST DAY OF A 3 DAY TRIP. WE WERE WAITING FOR DEP FROM RWY 35 -- FULL LENGTH. A METRO LANDED. SHORTLY AFTER WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF AND EXECUTED A NORMAL TKOF. AS WE ROTATED THE TWR ASKED THE METRO TO 'EXPEDITE CLRING THE ACTIVE.' WE LOOKED OVER THE NOSE OF OUR ACFT, A DH8, AND SAW A METRO STILL TAXIING ON RWY 35, 300 OR 400 YARDS FROM THE END. WE WERE BOTH VERY SURPRISED AS NEITHER ONE OF US HAD SEEN HIM. THIS INCIDENT WAS A REMINDER OF HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO SEE ACFT ON THE GND AT NIGHT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE 5000 FT AWAY. MSU -- CREDIT GOES TO THE TWR CTLR. ALTHOUGH HE SCREWED UP BY GIVING US OUR TKOF CLRNC. HE WOULD HAVE MADE THINGS MUCH WORSE IF HE HAD POINTED IT OUT TO US NEAR V1 -- IF WE HAD ATTEMPTED AN ABORT THEN IT IS DOUBTFUL WE COULD HAVE STOPPED WITHOUT EITHER HITTING THE METRO OR, MORE LIKELY, RUNNING OFF THE RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.