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First officer assumes PIC's position as captain when flight crew behavior illness incapacitation takes captain out of the seat.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 291186 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199412 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zoa |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : other oceanic enroute : pacific enroute airway : zoa |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer other personnel other |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 400 |
| ASRS Report | 291186 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 900 |
| ASRS Report | 291184 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Captain had uncontrollable nosebleed. Cause unknown. First officer assigned to left seat and PIC, fob (international officer) to first officer position and landed aircraft without incident. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the other pilot in the event called back, reporting the aircraft type as an md-11, he stated that the captain suffered the nosebleed because he was recovering from a bad cold and had been taking large doses of aspirin, thus thinning his blood. Apparently, any sneezing or irritation the captain experienced allowed the bleeding to start. Reporter stated that the other pilot who took the left seat and got 'tiller time' had been a 767 captain and was more experienced in ground operations and steering. All crew members concurred in the seating arrangements in the cockpit. Supplemental information from acn 291184: fob instructed to land aircraft. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter called was the first officer who took the captain's seat and had the fob or international relief officer take the first officer seat and make the landing. That decision was made because the first officer in the PIC position had not made a landing in the aircraft from the left seat but had 'tiller' time. The fob had experience in lndgs from the right seat so the crew saw no problem with the decision. The captain fell ill in the middle of the pacific so they continued to destination mainland airport. Captain stayed in the jump seat. Probably to observe and also not to alarm passenger.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO ASSUMES PIC'S POS AS CAPT WHEN FLC BEHAVIOR ILLNESS INCAPACITATION TAKES CAPT OUT OF THE SEAT.
Narrative: CAPT HAD UNCTLABLE NOSEBLEED. CAUSE UNKNOWN. FO ASSIGNED TO L SEAT AND PIC, FOB (INTL OFFICER) TO FO POS AND LANDED ACFT WITHOUT INCIDENT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE OTHER PLT IN THE EVENT CALLED BACK, RPTING THE ACFT TYPE AS AN MD-11, HE STATED THAT THE CAPT SUFFERED THE NOSEBLEED BECAUSE HE WAS RECOVERING FROM A BAD COLD AND HAD BEEN TAKING LARGE DOSES OF ASPIRIN, THUS THINNING HIS BLOOD. APPARENTLY, ANY SNEEZING OR IRRITATION THE CAPT EXPERIENCED ALLOWED THE BLEEDING TO START. RPTR STATED THAT THE OTHER PLT WHO TOOK THE L SEAT AND GOT 'TILLER TIME' HAD BEEN A 767 CAPT AND WAS MORE EXPERIENCED IN GND OPS AND STEERING. ALL CREW MEMBERS CONCURRED IN THE SEATING ARRANGEMENTS IN THE COCKPIT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 291184: FOB INSTRUCTED TO LAND ACFT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR CALLED WAS THE FO WHO TOOK THE CAPT'S SEAT AND HAD THE FOB OR IRO TAKE THE FO SEAT AND MAKE THE LNDG. THAT DECISION WAS MADE BECAUSE THE FO IN THE PIC POS HAD NOT MADE A LNDG IN THE ACFT FROM THE L SEAT BUT HAD 'TILLER' TIME. THE FOB HAD EXPERIENCE IN LNDGS FROM THE R SEAT SO THE CREW SAW NO PROB WITH THE DECISION. THE CAPT FELL ILL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACIFIC SO THEY CONTINUED TO DEST MAINLAND ARPT. CAPT STAYED IN THE JUMP SEAT. PROBABLY TO OBSERVE AND ALSO NOT TO ALARM PAX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.