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Attributes | |
ACN | 291757 |
Time | |
Date | 199412 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lbb |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 23000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR 72 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zfw |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 450 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 291757 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 291484 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
About 70 mi east of lbb, center gave us a choice of 9000 ft or FL230 because of an MOA en route. As of this date, all ATR 72's are restr from flying into known or forecast icing. With this restr in mind, we chose to climb to FL230. Preoccupied with the icing restr, we inadvertently forgot that the aircraft we were flying was MEL restr to a 1 bleed operation. The aircraft operating limitation for 1 bleed operation is FL200. Leveling off and doing the cruise check, we remembered that limitation. We immediately asked for lower. There were no pressurization problems encountered. The cockpit alert panel (cap) does have an air light indication to remind the crew there is some kind of air bleed problem. However, the proper procedure is to clear the cap in cockpit alert panel in case another problem should occur. My only suggestion to not duplicate this problem is to be more vigilant or to not operate the aircraft with so many restrs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT FLOWN IN VIOLATION OF MEL RESTRS.
Narrative: ABOUT 70 MI E OF LBB, CTR GAVE US A CHOICE OF 9000 FT OR FL230 BECAUSE OF AN MOA ENRTE. AS OF THIS DATE, ALL ATR 72'S ARE RESTR FROM FLYING INTO KNOWN OR FORECAST ICING. WITH THIS RESTR IN MIND, WE CHOSE TO CLB TO FL230. PREOCCUPIED WITH THE ICING RESTR, WE INADVERTENTLY FORGOT THAT THE ACFT WE WERE FLYING WAS MEL RESTR TO A 1 BLEED OP. THE ACFT OPERATING LIMITATION FOR 1 BLEED OP IS FL200. LEVELING OFF AND DOING THE CRUISE CHK, WE REMEMBERED THAT LIMITATION. WE IMMEDIATELY ASKED FOR LOWER. THERE WERE NO PRESSURIZATION PROBS ENCOUNTERED. THE COCKPIT ALERT PANEL (CAP) DOES HAVE AN AIR LIGHT INDICATION TO REMIND THE CREW THERE IS SOME KIND OF AIR BLEED PROB. HOWEVER, THE PROPER PROC IS TO CLR THE CAP IN COCKPIT ALERT PANEL IN CASE ANOTHER PROB SHOULD OCCUR. MY ONLY SUGGESTION TO NOT DUPLICATE THIS PROB IS TO BE MORE VIGILANT OR TO NOT OPERATE THE ACFT WITH SO MANY RESTRS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.