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Attributes | |
ACN | 292376 |
Time | |
Date | 199412 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : iden airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10600 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : fsd |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute airway : den |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 292376 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Approaching denver from the northeast, we crossed keann at 17000 ft/250 KTS and were cleared to 12000 ft. Shortly came 11000 ft with direct altur. My mind slipped out of gear descending through 11300 ft. I was PNF, was tuning the runway 26L ILS for glide path verification, and perhaps was preoccupied with separating morse identify from verbal traffic on the communication frequency. We both were startled by the altitude alert aural warning descending through 10700 ft. It took a moment to interpretation this readout (I can't believe this is happening -- maybe there's some good reason for this) and realize we were supposed to be at 11000 ft. The copilot raised the nose, added power, and returned promptly to 11000 ft...at which time the controller cleared us to 9000 ft. The lowest point in the descent was 10600 ft. We knew of no traffic at 10000 ft and never uncovered any but as I am writing this I now think that denver does have a departure corridor taking traffic east at 10000 ft underneath inbounds from the northeast at 11000 ft. Aside from more steadfast vigilance on the part of the crew, the 1 improvement I would suggest is more rapid and continuous morse identify on terminal area navaids. If these navaids are to be idented, the pilot must divide attention between this task and monitoring an often saturated communication frequency for calls requiring a response as well as for peripheral information. I don't get into ord much any more and do not know if changes have been made in recent yrs but to me the paragon was the morse identify on the runway 14L ILS. Fast and frequent, it made identify easy through a few small and irregular breaks in communication. ATIS could also benefit from similar modification since even center frequencys are congested in this modern day.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLTDEV -- ALT OVERSHOT ON DSCNT.
Narrative: APCHING DENVER FROM THE NE, WE CROSSED KEANN AT 17000 FT/250 KTS AND WERE CLRED TO 12000 FT. SHORTLY CAME 11000 FT WITH DIRECT ALTUR. MY MIND SLIPPED OUT OF GEAR DSNDING THROUGH 11300 FT. I WAS PNF, WAS TUNING THE RWY 26L ILS FOR GLIDE PATH VERIFICATION, AND PERHAPS WAS PREOCCUPIED WITH SEPARATING MORSE IDENT FROM VERBAL TFC ON THE COM FREQ. WE BOTH WERE STARTLED BY THE ALT ALERT AURAL WARNING DSNDING THROUGH 10700 FT. IT TOOK A MOMENT TO INTERP THIS READOUT (I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING -- MAYBE THERE'S SOME GOOD REASON FOR THIS) AND REALIZE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AT 11000 FT. THE COPLT RAISED THE NOSE, ADDED PWR, AND RETURNED PROMPTLY TO 11000 FT...AT WHICH TIME THE CTLR CLRED US TO 9000 FT. THE LOWEST POINT IN THE DSCNT WAS 10600 FT. WE KNEW OF NO TFC AT 10000 FT AND NEVER UNCOVERED ANY BUT AS I AM WRITING THIS I NOW THINK THAT DENVER DOES HAVE A DEP CORRIDOR TAKING TFC E AT 10000 FT UNDERNEATH INBOUNDS FROM THE NE AT 11000 FT. ASIDE FROM MORE STEADFAST VIGILANCE ON THE PART OF THE CREW, THE 1 IMPROVEMENT I WOULD SUGGEST IS MORE RAPID AND CONTINUOUS MORSE IDENT ON TERMINAL AREA NAVAIDS. IF THESE NAVAIDS ARE TO BE IDENTED, THE PLT MUST DIVIDE ATTN BTWN THIS TASK AND MONITORING AN OFTEN SATURATED COM FREQ FOR CALLS REQUIRING A RESPONSE AS WELL AS FOR PERIPHERAL INFO. I DON'T GET INTO ORD MUCH ANY MORE AND DO NOT KNOW IF CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE IN RECENT YRS BUT TO ME THE PARAGON WAS THE MORSE IDENT ON THE RWY 14L ILS. FAST AND FREQUENT, IT MADE IDENT EASY THROUGH A FEW SMALL AND IRREGULAR BREAKS IN COM. ATIS COULD ALSO BENEFIT FROM SIMILAR MODIFICATION SINCE EVEN CTR FREQS ARE CONGESTED IN THIS MODERN DAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.