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Attributes | |
ACN | 293615 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : seg |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 18000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob artcc : zny artcc : zme |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 32 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 3900 flight time type : 60 |
ASRS Report | 293615 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
In the climb, ZOB told us to switch to ZNY and climb to FL180. We checked in with ZNY and told them we were climbing through 14000 ft to FL180. As we were leveling off at FL180 ZNY came back and asked us what altitude we were at. He then told us he was not aware that we had been cleared to FL180 and told us descend to 17000 ft immediately. What caused the problem: we were filed at 17000 ft. I feel that ZOB must have given us FL180 in error and ZNY didn't catch it when we checked in. It is not uncommon to get a different altitude then the filed altitude so we didn't question FL180. Prevent recurrence: better communication on handoff between ctrs. Controllers listen up when we check in. Pilots speak up when checking in so the controller has no excuse for not hearing us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ERROR IN ALT ASSIGNMENT.
Narrative: IN THE CLB, ZOB TOLD US TO SWITCH TO ZNY AND CLB TO FL180. WE CHKED IN WITH ZNY AND TOLD THEM WE WERE CLBING THROUGH 14000 FT TO FL180. AS WE WERE LEVELING OFF AT FL180 ZNY CAME BACK AND ASKED US WHAT ALT WE WERE AT. HE THEN TOLD US HE WAS NOT AWARE THAT WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO FL180 AND TOLD US DSND TO 17000 FT IMMEDIATELY. WHAT CAUSED THE PROB: WE WERE FILED AT 17000 FT. I FEEL THAT ZOB MUST HAVE GIVEN US FL180 IN ERROR AND ZNY DIDN'T CATCH IT WHEN WE CHKED IN. IT IS NOT UNCOMMON TO GET A DIFFERENT ALT THEN THE FILED ALT SO WE DIDN'T QUESTION FL180. PREVENT RECURRENCE: BETTER COM ON HDOF BTWN CTRS. CTLRS LISTEN UP WHEN WE CHK IN. PLTS SPEAK UP WHEN CHKING IN SO THE CTLR HAS NO EXCUSE FOR NOT HEARING US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.