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Attributes | |
ACN | 295914 |
Time | |
Date | 199502 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cvg |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid artcc : zfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 2 controller radar : 8 |
ASRS Report | 295914 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9200 vertical : 800 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X was handed off to me above FL200 interim altitude of 13000 ft. Air carrier Y was a departure off of cvg airport. I had pointed Y to the previous sector climbing to FL230. When X was initially handed off, he was tracking approximately a 210 degree heading. By the time I realized the turn from X back to the southeast, and began to correct the error, it was too late. X was at FL182 when I stopped him at 17000 ft. Y was at 15700 ft when I tried to stop him at 16000 ft. I did not recognize that Y was climbing at 4200 FPM. His climb rate was such that he climbed all the way to 16900 ft before being able to start back down. I can't really think of anything other than radar that updates position information quicker to closer correlate to aircraft involved in turns.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X DSNDING HAD LTSS FROM ACR Y CLBING. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X WAS HANDED OFF TO ME ABOVE FL200 INTERIM ALT OF 13000 FT. ACR Y WAS A DEP OFF OF CVG ARPT. I HAD POINTED Y TO THE PREVIOUS SECTOR CLBING TO FL230. WHEN X WAS INITIALLY HANDED OFF, HE WAS TRACKING APPROX A 210 DEG HDG. BY THE TIME I REALIZED THE TURN FROM X BACK TO THE SE, AND BEGAN TO CORRECT THE ERROR, IT WAS TOO LATE. X WAS AT FL182 WHEN I STOPPED HIM AT 17000 FT. Y WAS AT 15700 FT WHEN I TRIED TO STOP HIM AT 16000 FT. I DID NOT RECOGNIZE THAT Y WAS CLBING AT 4200 FPM. HIS CLB RATE WAS SUCH THAT HE CLBED ALL THE WAY TO 16900 FT BEFORE BEING ABLE TO START BACK DOWN. I CAN'T REALLY THINK OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN RADAR THAT UPDATES POS INFO QUICKER TO CLOSER CORRELATE TO ACFT INVOLVED IN TURNS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.