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Attributes | |
ACN | 296277 |
Time | |
Date | 199502 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : eca airport : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zoa |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 7700 flight time type : 2800 |
ASRS Report | 296277 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On the mod. Mod 2 STAR to sfo, ZOA had cleared us to cross cedes at 11000 ft and 210 KTS. The captain started a slow descent and got above the descent path. Realizing this, the captain increased the descent rate. We leveled off at 11000 ft and 340 KTS approximately 6-7 mi from cedes. I advised the captain we would not make the speed restr at cedes. The captain acknowledged my advice and, to my surprise, did not deploy the speed brakes because 'they made the cabin vibrate too much.' we crossed cedes intersection at 11000 ft and 280-290 KTS. Corrective action -- ATC must be advised if a flight cannot comply with an ATC clearance. In the future, I will do same at the earliest opportunity.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SPD RESTR MISSED.
Narrative: ON THE MOD. MOD 2 STAR TO SFO, ZOA HAD CLRED US TO CROSS CEDES AT 11000 FT AND 210 KTS. THE CAPT STARTED A SLOW DSCNT AND GOT ABOVE THE DSCNT PATH. REALIZING THIS, THE CAPT INCREASED THE DSCNT RATE. WE LEVELED OFF AT 11000 FT AND 340 KTS APPROX 6-7 MI FROM CEDES. I ADVISED THE CAPT WE WOULD NOT MAKE THE SPD RESTR AT CEDES. THE CAPT ACKNOWLEDGED MY ADVICE AND, TO MY SURPRISE, DID NOT DEPLOY THE SPD BRAKES BECAUSE 'THEY MADE THE CABIN VIBRATE TOO MUCH.' WE CROSSED CEDES INTXN AT 11000 FT AND 280-290 KTS. CORRECTIVE ACTION -- ATC MUST BE ADVISED IF A FLT CANNOT COMPLY WITH AN ATC CLRNC. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL DO SAME AT THE EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.