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Attributes | |
ACN | 296320 |
Time | |
Date | 199502 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sfo |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 296320 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
We departed sfo on runway 28L with a GAP2 departure, cleared to 3000 ft. The captain was flying and I was the first officer. After a normal takeoff, we were passing 2000 ft and I made the call '1000 ft to go,' which was acknowledged by the captain. We were accelerating to 250 KTS with flaps and slats up. At 2200 ft, the controller cleared us direct bebop. I was puzzled for a second because we had filed the alpha track. I queried the controller about his clearance to bebop when our flight plan showed alcoa and the alpha track. The controller then acknowledged our flight plan and cleared us to alcoa. I then reached for the flight plan so that I could verify that waypoint #1, in the INS's, was alcoa. As I began my verification, the so stated we were only cleared to 3000 ft. As I looked up we were passing 3800 ft. I told the captain we were only cleared to 3000 ft. The captain then said we were cleared to 15000 ft and that he heard the controller give us clearance to 15000 ft. The so and I said we did not hear the clearance to 15000 ft. The captain then asked me to ask the controller about our cleared altitude. The controller promptly cleared us to 10000 ft. The problem could have been avoided if SOP had been followed by the captain and if he had communicated to the rest of the crew his perceived hearing of a clearance. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporting first officer has had to turn in the captain of this incident for another breach of the norm. This was so recent that the reporter does not know the outcome. Other first officer's, according to the 'grapevine,' have had similar problems with this captain. The reporter believes that the main problem is that the captain is 'flying beyond his skills.' the reporter believes that this captain may 'kill someone some day.' the captain has been flying the dc-10 for about 9 months.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ON DEP.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED SFO ON RWY 28L WITH A GAP2 DEP, CLRED TO 3000 FT. THE CAPT WAS FLYING AND I WAS THE FO. AFTER A NORMAL TKOF, WE WERE PASSING 2000 FT AND I MADE THE CALL '1000 FT TO GO,' WHICH WAS ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE CAPT. WE WERE ACCELERATING TO 250 KTS WITH FLAPS AND SLATS UP. AT 2200 FT, THE CTLR CLRED US DIRECT BEBOP. I WAS PUZZLED FOR A SECOND BECAUSE WE HAD FILED THE ALPHA TRACK. I QUERIED THE CTLR ABOUT HIS CLRNC TO BEBOP WHEN OUR FLT PLAN SHOWED ALCOA AND THE ALPHA TRACK. THE CTLR THEN ACKNOWLEDGED OUR FLT PLAN AND CLRED US TO ALCOA. I THEN REACHED FOR THE FLT PLAN SO THAT I COULD VERIFY THAT WAYPOINT #1, IN THE INS'S, WAS ALCOA. AS I BEGAN MY VERIFICATION, THE SO STATED WE WERE ONLY CLRED TO 3000 FT. AS I LOOKED UP WE WERE PASSING 3800 FT. I TOLD THE CAPT WE WERE ONLY CLRED TO 3000 FT. THE CAPT THEN SAID WE WERE CLRED TO 15000 FT AND THAT HE HEARD THE CTLR GIVE US CLRNC TO 15000 FT. THE SO AND I SAID WE DID NOT HEAR THE CLRNC TO 15000 FT. THE CAPT THEN ASKED ME TO ASK THE CTLR ABOUT OUR CLRED ALT. THE CTLR PROMPTLY CLRED US TO 10000 FT. THE PROB COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF SOP HAD BEEN FOLLOWED BY THE CAPT AND IF HE HAD COMMUNICATED TO THE REST OF THE CREW HIS PERCEIVED HEARING OF A CLRNC. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTING FO HAS HAD TO TURN IN THE CAPT OF THIS INCIDENT FOR ANOTHER BREACH OF THE NORM. THIS WAS SO RECENT THAT THE RPTR DOES NOT KNOW THE OUTCOME. OTHER FO'S, ACCORDING TO THE 'GRAPEVINE,' HAVE HAD SIMILAR PROBS WITH THIS CAPT. THE RPTR BELIEVES THAT THE MAIN PROB IS THAT THE CAPT IS 'FLYING BEYOND HIS SKILLS.' THE RPTR BELIEVES THAT THIS CAPT MAY 'KILL SOMEONE SOME DAY.' THE CAPT HAS BEEN FLYING THE DC-10 FOR ABOUT 9 MONTHS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.