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Attributes | |
ACN | 298016 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zid |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 34500 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 5400 |
ASRS Report | 298016 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cruising at FL310 due to weight decided to climb to FL350 after fuel burnoff reduced us to legal weight. Aircraft acted 'heavy' with very slow rate of climb. Out of FL345 climb rate down to 100-200 FPM. Had to trade off about 15 KTS to get to FL350. (ATC working traffic in our area) at FL350 aircraft would not accelerate so requested lower from ATC. Controller responded, 'lower in 90 seconds.' airspeed had been holding steady but began to slowly reduce. Told controller we would take a turn to get a lower. He responded, '10 more seconds.' after speed came off another 3-4 KTS released autoplt and began descent while simultaneously receiving clearance to lower altitude. For some reason the aircraft did not perform as advertised (weight and balance loading error?) and I stayed at altitude too long for comfort. (Should have declared emergency and initiated descent sooner).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT EXCURSION.
Narrative: CRUISING AT FL310 DUE TO WT DECIDED TO CLB TO FL350 AFTER FUEL BURNOFF REDUCED US TO LEGAL WT. ACFT ACTED 'HEAVY' WITH VERY SLOW RATE OF CLB. OUT OF FL345 CLB RATE DOWN TO 100-200 FPM. HAD TO TRADE OFF ABOUT 15 KTS TO GET TO FL350. (ATC WORKING TFC IN OUR AREA) AT FL350 ACFT WOULD NOT ACCELERATE SO REQUESTED LOWER FROM ATC. CTLR RESPONDED, 'LOWER IN 90 SECONDS.' AIRSPD HAD BEEN HOLDING STEADY BUT BEGAN TO SLOWLY REDUCE. TOLD CTLR WE WOULD TAKE A TURN TO GET A LOWER. HE RESPONDED, '10 MORE SECONDS.' AFTER SPEED CAME OFF ANOTHER 3-4 KTS RELEASED AUTOPLT AND BEGAN DSCNT WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY RECEIVING CLRNC TO LOWER ALT. FOR SOME REASON THE ACFT DID NOT PERFORM AS ADVERTISED (WT AND BAL LOADING ERROR?) AND I STAYED AT ALT TOO LONG FOR COMFORT. (SHOULD HAVE DECLARED EMER AND INITIATED DSCNT SOONER).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.