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Attributes | |
ACN | 298114 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : fll |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1500 agl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia tower : fll |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 298114 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe conflict : ground less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X cleared for an ILS to runway 9L at fll. On approximately a 3 mi final tower cleared a cherokee aircraft on to runway 9L for departure in front of us. We continued with the ILS and initiated a go around at approximately 300 ft AGL because the cherokee hadn't started its takeoff roll. Tower instructed us to turn to a 060 degree heading and contact approach. Approach control cleared us to 2000 ft and turn to heading 270 degrees. We complied. Next approach came back and said he wanted to keep us in tight for spacing on other arrival aircraft into fll and gave us heading 240 degrees and descend to 1500 ft. We complied. Next approach control cleared us visual approach and contact fll tower. We were configured to land with 22 degrees flaps at this time and went to tower. Fll tower told us to extend 5 mi to the northwest for a noise sensitive area. Then she came back to tell us of traffic at 10 O'clock and 1200 ft -- same altitude as we were. She said she would turn the cessna aircraft to east about 30 seconds later we got a TA on our TCASII followed by a RA with instructions to climb. Simultaneously we spotted the cessna aircraft at 12 O'clock about 2 mi and same altitude. We initiated an aggressive climb and the cessna passed under us at 500 ft with no apparent reaction on the cessna's part. We continued after that with a normal landing in fll. Conclusions: 1) tower shouldn't have cleared the cherokee for departure in front of us with so little spacing. 2) no apparent communication between tower and fll approach. 3) tower should have taken a more assertive stand in vectoring us or the cessna sooner than she did. 'Communication.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X TCASII TA RA EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN FROM CESSNA IN CLASS C AIRSPACE.
Narrative: ACR X CLRED FOR AN ILS TO RWY 9L AT FLL. ON APPROX A 3 MI FINAL TWR CLRED A CHEROKEE ACFT ON TO RWY 9L FOR DEP IN FRONT OF US. WE CONTINUED WITH THE ILS AND INITIATED A GAR AT APPROX 300 FT AGL BECAUSE THE CHEROKEE HADN'T STARTED ITS TKOF ROLL. TWR INSTRUCTED US TO TURN TO A 060 DEG HDG AND CONTACT APCH. APCH CTL CLRED US TO 2000 FT AND TURN TO HDG 270 DEGS. WE COMPLIED. NEXT APCH CAME BACK AND SAID HE WANTED TO KEEP US IN TIGHT FOR SPACING ON OTHER ARR ACFT INTO FLL AND GAVE US HDG 240 DEGS AND DSND TO 1500 FT. WE COMPLIED. NEXT APCH CTL CLRED US VISUAL APCH AND CONTACT FLL TWR. WE WERE CONFIGURED TO LAND WITH 22 DEGS FLAPS AT THIS TIME AND WENT TO TWR. FLL TWR TOLD US TO EXTEND 5 MI TO THE NW FOR A NOISE SENSITIVE AREA. THEN SHE CAME BACK TO TELL US OF TFC AT 10 O'CLOCK AND 1200 FT -- SAME ALT AS WE WERE. SHE SAID SHE WOULD TURN THE CESSNA ACFT TO E ABOUT 30 SECONDS LATER WE GOT A TA ON OUR TCASII FOLLOWED BY A RA WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO CLB. SIMULTANEOUSLY WE SPOTTED THE CESSNA ACFT AT 12 O'CLOCK ABOUT 2 MI AND SAME ALT. WE INITIATED AN AGGRESSIVE CLB AND THE CESSNA PASSED UNDER US AT 500 FT WITH NO APPARENT REACTION ON THE CESSNA'S PART. WE CONTINUED AFTER THAT WITH A NORMAL LNDG IN FLL. CONCLUSIONS: 1) TWR SHOULDN'T HAVE CLRED THE CHEROKEE FOR DEP IN FRONT OF US WITH SO LITTLE SPACING. 2) NO APPARENT COM BTWN TWR AND FLL APCH. 3) TWR SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A MORE ASSERTIVE STAND IN VECTORING US OR THE CESSNA SOONER THAN SHE DID. 'COM.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.