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Attributes | |
ACN | 298150 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bvl airport : env |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7500 msl bound upper : 7500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zlc |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 26 flight time total : 1240 flight time type : 162 |
ASRS Report | 298150 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
The following is a narrative of a near midair collision with an aircraft flying at the same VFR altitude. The reporter of this event was flying a white/red cessna 182 with 2 passenger. Just prior to rolling onto runway 12 at wendover, ut, I heard a DC9 calling wendover traffic for advisories. Since I didn't hear his position, I called the DC9 for a position and he advised me that he was 30 mi out. We proceeded to depart on runway 12 and just after liftoff as we were departing the airport traffic pattern (XA15 hours), we heard a cessna XXX call 'wendover traffic' on 122.8 advising he was 7 mi east at 7500 ft. We announced that we were eastbound, climbing through 5800 ft. We then heard a ? Twin call wendover unicom for advisories, which he received. At this point I advised my passenger to watch carefully for traffic, that 2 aircraft were reporting close to us. We saw the light twin pass 1/4 mi to our right and under us at about 6 NM east of wendover. (The twin was at about 5500 ft and we were at 6800 ft). After passing the 7 NM point we proceeded to climb to 7500 ft and were level at 7500 passing over the bonneville VOR eastbound on V32. Approximately 15 NM east of bvl VOR at about XA28 hours a white and red cessna (182) aircraft, wbound at 7500 ft turned from his right to left directly in front of us. The cessna was initially about 500-800 ft when he turned, with the closest point being about 300 ft just ahead and to the right of our right wing. The cessna saw us first, because we did not see him until he had started his turn in front of us. We heard the same cessna XXX landing at wendover about 10 min later. Mar/xx/95: the pilot of XXX, called me on mar/xx/95 to find out if we had seen him and to report he had heard the conversation between us and the DC9, and being concerned about the DC9 being in the area was descending from 8500 ft when his passenger observed us and he took evasive action to his left. The pilot of XXX said he turned left because he was closer to our right side and that was the quickest way out. The pilot of XXX stated he and his passenger were also watching for our traffic and apologized for any scare he may have caused. He also felt that he was closer than the 300 ft which I felt was the closest he came to us. My estimate is based on XXX being about 10 wing spans from us at the closest point, just off our right wing. Corrective actions: I feel both crews were alert and watching for the other, but in retrospect should have tried to ascertain each other's position by radio even though there was quite a bit of radio traffic. I know I will be calling more pilots for position report updates.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTSS -- GA PLT IS ALMOST HIT BY ANOTHER ON THE SAME AIRWAY AND AT THE SAME ALT.
Narrative: THE FOLLOWING IS A NARRATIVE OF A NMAC WITH AN ACFT FLYING AT THE SAME VFR ALT. THE RPTR OF THIS EVENT WAS FLYING A WHITE/RED CESSNA 182 WITH 2 PAX. JUST PRIOR TO ROLLING ONTO RWY 12 AT WENDOVER, UT, I HEARD A DC9 CALLING WENDOVER TFC FOR ADVISORIES. SINCE I DIDN'T HEAR HIS POS, I CALLED THE DC9 FOR A POS AND HE ADVISED ME THAT HE WAS 30 MI OUT. WE PROCEEDED TO DEPART ON RWY 12 AND JUST AFTER LIFTOFF AS WE WERE DEPARTING THE ARPT TFC PATTERN (XA15 HRS), WE HEARD A CESSNA XXX CALL 'WENDOVER TFC' ON 122.8 ADVISING HE WAS 7 MI E AT 7500 FT. WE ANNOUNCED THAT WE WERE EBOUND, CLBING THROUGH 5800 FT. WE THEN HEARD A ? TWIN CALL WENDOVER UNICOM FOR ADVISORIES, WHICH HE RECEIVED. AT THIS POINT I ADVISED MY PAX TO WATCH CAREFULLY FOR TFC, THAT 2 ACFT WERE RPTING CLOSE TO US. WE SAW THE LIGHT TWIN PASS 1/4 MI TO OUR R AND UNDER US AT ABOUT 6 NM E OF WENDOVER. (THE TWIN WAS AT ABOUT 5500 FT AND WE WERE AT 6800 FT). AFTER PASSING THE 7 NM POINT WE PROCEEDED TO CLB TO 7500 FT AND WERE LEVEL AT 7500 PASSING OVER THE BONNEVILLE VOR EBOUND ON V32. APPROX 15 NM E OF BVL VOR AT ABOUT XA28 HRS A WHITE AND RED CESSNA (182) ACFT, WBOUND AT 7500 FT TURNED FROM HIS R TO L DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF US. THE CESSNA WAS INITIALLY ABOUT 500-800 FT WHEN HE TURNED, WITH THE CLOSEST POINT BEING ABOUT 300 FT JUST AHEAD AND TO THE R OF OUR R WING. THE CESSNA SAW US FIRST, BECAUSE WE DID NOT SEE HIM UNTIL HE HAD STARTED HIS TURN IN FRONT OF US. WE HEARD THE SAME CESSNA XXX LNDG AT WENDOVER ABOUT 10 MIN LATER. MAR/XX/95: THE PLT OF XXX, CALLED ME ON MAR/XX/95 TO FIND OUT IF WE HAD SEEN HIM AND TO RPT HE HAD HEARD THE CONVERSATION BTWN US AND THE DC9, AND BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THE DC9 BEING IN THE AREA WAS DSNDING FROM 8500 FT WHEN HIS PAX OBSERVED US AND HE TOOK EVASIVE ACTION TO HIS L. THE PLT OF XXX SAID HE TURNED L BECAUSE HE WAS CLOSER TO OUR R SIDE AND THAT WAS THE QUICKEST WAY OUT. THE PLT OF XXX STATED HE AND HIS PAX WERE ALSO WATCHING FOR OUR TFC AND APOLOGIZED FOR ANY SCARE HE MAY HAVE CAUSED. HE ALSO FELT THAT HE WAS CLOSER THAN THE 300 FT WHICH I FELT WAS THE CLOSEST HE CAME TO US. MY ESTIMATE IS BASED ON XXX BEING ABOUT 10 WING SPANS FROM US AT THE CLOSEST POINT, JUST OFF OUR R WING. CORRECTIVE ACTIONS: I FEEL BOTH CREWS WERE ALERT AND WATCHING FOR THE OTHER, BUT IN RETROSPECT SHOULD HAVE TRIED TO ASCERTAIN EACH OTHER'S POS BY RADIO EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF RADIO TFC. I KNOW I WILL BE CALLING MORE PLTS FOR POS RPT UPDATES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.