37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 298206 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gsp |
State Reference | SC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 3600 flight time type : 1800 |
ASRS Report | 298206 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 4400 |
ASRS Report | 298669 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We departed gsp for gso. Prior to departure at gsp, the tower called the touchdown zone RVR 1200 ft and the rollout RVR 1000 ft. Our operations specifications allow this departure with crtline lights. We checked our charts and found runway 3 at gsp had centerline lights. We selected a takeoff alternate and selected 2 alternates for our destination as required by our operations specifications and our company manual. After departure we realized that the runway centerline lights were OTS, therefore our operations specifications require 1600 ft RVR or 1/4 mi visibility. If the ATIS said that the centerline lights were OTS, we did not copy this. Perhaps it would have helped if the tower had said 'runway 3 centerline lights are OTS.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARPT WX MINIMUMS FOR TKOF -- FLC DID NOT REALIZE THE CTRLINE LIGHTS WERE OTS AND THEY TAKE OFF WITH RVR TOO LOW.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED GSP FOR GSO. PRIOR TO DEP AT GSP, THE TWR CALLED THE TOUCHDOWN ZONE RVR 1200 FT AND THE ROLLOUT RVR 1000 FT. OUR OPS SPECS ALLOW THIS DEP WITH CRTLINE LIGHTS. WE CHKED OUR CHARTS AND FOUND RWY 3 AT GSP HAD CTRLINE LIGHTS. WE SELECTED A TKOF ALTERNATE AND SELECTED 2 ALTERNATES FOR OUR DEST AS REQUIRED BY OUR OPS SPECS AND OUR COMPANY MANUAL. AFTER DEP WE REALIZED THAT THE RWY CTRLINE LIGHTS WERE OTS, THEREFORE OUR OPS SPECS REQUIRE 1600 FT RVR OR 1/4 MI VISIBILITY. IF THE ATIS SAID THAT THE CTRLINE LIGHTS WERE OTS, WE DID NOT COPY THIS. PERHAPS IT WOULD HAVE HELPED IF THE TWR HAD SAID 'RWY 3 CTRLINE LIGHTS ARE OTS.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.