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Attributes | |
ACN | 300692 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bka airport : sit |
State Reference | AK |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zan |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zan |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 10500 |
ASRS Report | 300692 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Inbound to sitka, the lda DME runway 11 approach was fully briefed. This was the first time the crew had flown together and the first time in this particular aircraft for the captain. Captain started to turn on 20 DME arc at 23 DME at 250 KTS. Copilot asked at that time if it was a 30 DME arc (trial balloon). Established on the arc the copilot said 'you are still on VLF navigation on the DME.' this put us 8 mi outside the arc. We immediately stopped our descent and turned toward the original inbound radial. Since we were on top we maintained 5000 ft which was the last assigned altitude 'until intercepting a published portion of the approach.' the rest of the approach was normal. As a captain I was too nonchalant about the differences in avionics packages between this aircraft and the aircraft normally flown. When the copilot (who had not flown this route before) queried me as I turned on the arc I took it as a question on his part, rather than a question of my execution of the procedure. On a flight which had built in contributing factors, I did not bring enough paranoia along.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN INCORRECT DME MODE WAS SELECTED BY THE PF, WHICH PLACED THE ACFT 10 MI AWAY FROM INTENDED POS ON AN IAP.
Narrative: INBOUND TO SITKA, THE LDA DME RWY 11 APCH WAS FULLY BRIEFED. THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THE CREW HAD FLOWN TOGETHER AND THE FIRST TIME IN THIS PARTICULAR ACFT FOR THE CAPT. CAPT STARTED TO TURN ON 20 DME ARC AT 23 DME AT 250 KTS. COPLT ASKED AT THAT TIME IF IT WAS A 30 DME ARC (TRIAL BALLOON). ESTABLISHED ON THE ARC THE COPLT SAID 'YOU ARE STILL ON VLF NAV ON THE DME.' THIS PUT US 8 MI OUTSIDE THE ARC. WE IMMEDIATELY STOPPED OUR DSCNT AND TURNED TOWARD THE ORIGINAL INBOUND RADIAL. SINCE WE WERE ON TOP WE MAINTAINED 5000 FT WHICH WAS THE LAST ASSIGNED ALT 'UNTIL INTERCEPTING A PUBLISHED PORTION OF THE APCH.' THE REST OF THE APCH WAS NORMAL. AS A CAPT I WAS TOO NONCHALANT ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES IN AVIONICS PACKAGES BTWN THIS ACFT AND THE ACFT NORMALLY FLOWN. WHEN THE COPLT (WHO HAD NOT FLOWN THIS RTE BEFORE) QUERIED ME AS I TURNED ON THE ARC I TOOK IT AS A QUESTION ON HIS PART, RATHER THAN A QUESTION OF MY EXECUTION OF THE PROC. ON A FLT WHICH HAD BUILT IN CONTRIBUTING FACTORS, I DID NOT BRING ENOUGH PARANOIA ALONG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.