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Attributes | |
ACN | 300867 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hub |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : hou |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 300867 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 20000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Hobby tower was trying to accommodate us on a westerly departure by allowing us to takeoff on runway 22 even though runway 04 was the active runway. A new copilot (3 months experience with the airline) was flying. We were cleared for an immediate takeoff with a close in turn to a heading of 330 degrees. Our manuals require a climb to 500 ft AGL before commencing any turns, which he did. We were heavy which prolonged this straight away. The PF then commenced a 15 degree angle of bank turn toward the northwest, which our manuals recommend at low altitude for passenger comfort. The tower requested a tighter turn and the copilot increased the angle of bank to 20 degrees. This still did not satisfy the tower's needs and we finally saw why as another aircraft was about 3 mi in front of us and passing down our left side maneuvering for a landing on runway 04. Although this didn't cause any TCASII alert or concern in cockpit, it did cause the tower some anxiety and they let us know about it. We both learned from this experience. I didn't take the airplane and tighten the turn as I understood the tower's departure instructions to mean. And the copilot now knows, that we can use up to 30 degree angle of bank to maneuver after takeoff or for landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SLOW TURN AFTER TKOF PUT ACFT IN PROX OF APCHING ACFT.
Narrative: HOBBY TWR WAS TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE US ON A WESTERLY DEP BY ALLOWING US TO TKOF ON RWY 22 EVEN THOUGH RWY 04 WAS THE ACTIVE RWY. A NEW COPLT (3 MONTHS EXPERIENCE WITH THE AIRLINE) WAS FLYING. WE WERE CLRED FOR AN IMMEDIATE TKOF WITH A CLOSE IN TURN TO A HDG OF 330 DEGS. OUR MANUALS REQUIRE A CLB TO 500 FT AGL BEFORE COMMENCING ANY TURNS, WHICH HE DID. WE WERE HVY WHICH PROLONGED THIS STRAIGHT AWAY. THE PF THEN COMMENCED A 15 DEG ANGLE OF BANK TURN TOWARD THE NW, WHICH OUR MANUALS RECOMMEND AT LOW ALT FOR PAX COMFORT. THE TWR REQUESTED A TIGHTER TURN AND THE COPLT INCREASED THE ANGLE OF BANK TO 20 DEGS. THIS STILL DID NOT SATISFY THE TWR'S NEEDS AND WE FINALLY SAW WHY AS ANOTHER ACFT WAS ABOUT 3 MI IN FRONT OF US AND PASSING DOWN OUR L SIDE MANEUVERING FOR A LNDG ON RWY 04. ALTHOUGH THIS DIDN'T CAUSE ANY TCASII ALERT OR CONCERN IN COCKPIT, IT DID CAUSE THE TWR SOME ANXIETY AND THEY LET US KNOW ABOUT IT. WE BOTH LEARNED FROM THIS EXPERIENCE. I DIDN'T TAKE THE AIRPLANE AND TIGHTEN THE TURN AS I UNDERSTOOD THE TWR'S DEP INSTRUCTIONS TO MEAN. AND THE COPLT NOW KNOWS, THAT WE CAN USE UP TO 30 DEG ANGLE OF BANK TO MANEUVER AFTER TKOF OR FOR LNDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.