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Altitude deviation altitude excursion, depending on which ARTCC radar controller you talk with. Clearance disputed.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 301113 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199503 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ric |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 23000 msl bound upper : 28000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc tower : buf |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 12500 flight time type : 8000 |
| ASRS Report | 301113 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
On flight as captain for air carrier xyz, we were given a crossing restr, to cross '80 mi south of richmond, va, at FL230.' restr was issued by ZDC on 118.92. During level off at FL230, 82 mi south of ric, ZDC, on frequency 127.75, asked our altitude. I stated that we were level at FL230. He said 'last assigned was FL280.' I said we were given '80 mi south at FL230, what do you want?' I again asked what he wanted and he said 'remain at FL230.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT EXCURSION, DEPENDING ON WHICH ARTCC RADAR CTLR YOU TALK WITH. CLRNC DISPUTED.
Narrative: ON FLT AS CAPT FOR ACR XYZ, WE WERE GIVEN A XING RESTR, TO CROSS '80 MI S OF RICHMOND, VA, AT FL230.' RESTR WAS ISSUED BY ZDC ON 118.92. DURING LEVEL OFF AT FL230, 82 MI S OF RIC, ZDC, ON FREQ 127.75, ASKED OUR ALT. I STATED THAT WE WERE LEVEL AT FL230. HE SAID 'LAST ASSIGNED WAS FL280.' I SAID WE WERE GIVEN '80 MI S AT FL230, WHAT DO YOU WANT?' I AGAIN ASKED WHAT HE WANTED AND HE SAID 'REMAIN AT FL230.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.