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Attributes | |
ACN | 302181 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cmh |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1700 msl bound upper : 1700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : cmh tracon : n90 |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Skymaster |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 710 flight time type : 25 |
ASRS Report | 302181 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 8000 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
It was a warm sunny day and everyone was out flying. The pattern was full, the aerobatic box above the field was hot, they were towing banners, traffic was arriving from all different directions, and there was 1 controller in the tower. The problem arose when the controller got extremely overloaded with traffic. There was so much traffic that for spacing purposes people were making 360 degree turns regularly. It was at this time that there was an incoming skymaster. We were making a right traffic pattern and had just called in abeam the numbers requesting another touch-and-go. The controller told us to extend our downwind and that she would call our base, for spacing reasons. The skymaster made his position report and the controller proceeded to tell us to turn our base. Upon turning base, she told us to make a left 360 degree turn, due to the incoming skymaster. As we began our 360 degree turn, we spotted the skymaster headed directly for us. So we leveled out, keeping him in sight, and continued our left 360 degree turn after he was safely past us. As we leveled out, we also reported him in sight. As he (the skymaster) passed us, he began to get mad and argue with the controller wanting to know who we were. The controller proceeded to tell him that he was not where his position report stated he was and that he should not be arguing. Especially since she (the controller) was so busy. I feel the reason he was so upset was because he did not have a visual on us until he was almost past us, and I believe it scared him a little.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTSS IN TWR CTLED TFC PATTERN DUE TO THE OTHER ACFT ERRONEOUS RPTING INTO THE TWR AT A LOCATION OTHER THAN WHAT WHERE IT WAS ACTUALLY LOCATED.
Narrative: IT WAS A WARM SUNNY DAY AND EVERYONE WAS OUT FLYING. THE PATTERN WAS FULL, THE AEROBATIC BOX ABOVE THE FIELD WAS HOT, THEY WERE TOWING BANNERS, TFC WAS ARRIVING FROM ALL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, AND THERE WAS 1 CTLR IN THE TWR. THE PROB AROSE WHEN THE CTLR GOT EXTREMELY OVERLOADED WITH TFC. THERE WAS SO MUCH TFC THAT FOR SPACING PURPOSES PEOPLE WERE MAKING 360 DEG TURNS REGULARLY. IT WAS AT THIS TIME THAT THERE WAS AN INCOMING SKYMASTER. WE WERE MAKING A R TFC PATTERN AND HAD JUST CALLED IN ABEAM THE NUMBERS REQUESTING ANOTHER TOUCH-AND-GO. THE CTLR TOLD US TO EXTEND OUR DOWNWIND AND THAT SHE WOULD CALL OUR BASE, FOR SPACING REASONS. THE SKYMASTER MADE HIS POS RPT AND THE CTLR PROCEEDED TO TELL US TO TURN OUR BASE. UPON TURNING BASE, SHE TOLD US TO MAKE A L 360 DEG TURN, DUE TO THE INCOMING SKYMASTER. AS WE BEGAN OUR 360 DEG TURN, WE SPOTTED THE SKYMASTER HEADED DIRECTLY FOR US. SO WE LEVELED OUT, KEEPING HIM IN SIGHT, AND CONTINUED OUR L 360 DEG TURN AFTER HE WAS SAFELY PAST US. AS WE LEVELED OUT, WE ALSO RPTED HIM IN SIGHT. AS HE (THE SKYMASTER) PASSED US, HE BEGAN TO GET MAD AND ARGUE WITH THE CTLR WANTING TO KNOW WHO WE WERE. THE CTLR PROCEEDED TO TELL HIM THAT HE WAS NOT WHERE HIS POS RPT STATED HE WAS AND THAT HE SHOULD NOT BE ARGUING. ESPECIALLY SINCE SHE (THE CTLR) WAS SO BUSY. I FEEL THE REASON HE WAS SO UPSET WAS BECAUSE HE DID NOT HAVE A VISUAL ON US UNTIL HE WAS ALMOST PAST US, AND I BELIEVE IT SCARED HIM A LITTLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.