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Attributes | |
ACN | 302614 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mia |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 15000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma tower : aus |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2900 |
ASRS Report | 302614 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other other : unspecified atc |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While descending into mia on collier 4 arrival, after several vectors reclred on a vector to join the arrival outside worpp intersection. The frequency was very busy. I had preset the approach frequency in the #1 communication, so I could get the new updated ATIS (which finally came out) on the #2 communication. A min after I picked up the ATIS and was monitoring the #1 communication - mia approach asked if we were on and gave us a visual and told us to call center on the phone. Somehow the #1 communication switch was moved from the center frequency to the preset approach frequency. We are both bewildered how it was moved. My only suggestion to help reduce communication loss or only 1 pilot on the radio is to have ATIS WX taken at some time - then always at a specific time put the new WX on the ATIS, ie, :00, on the hour like canadians do or make ATIS available through ACARS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT LEFT FREQ OF CTLR TO GET ATIS.
Narrative: WHILE DSNDING INTO MIA ON COLLIER 4 ARR, AFTER SEVERAL VECTORS RECLRED ON A VECTOR TO JOIN THE ARR OUTSIDE WORPP INTXN. THE FREQ WAS VERY BUSY. I HAD PRESET THE APCH FREQ IN THE #1 COM, SO I COULD GET THE NEW UPDATED ATIS (WHICH FINALLY CAME OUT) ON THE #2 COM. A MIN AFTER I PICKED UP THE ATIS AND WAS MONITORING THE #1 COM - MIA APCH ASKED IF WE WERE ON AND GAVE US A VISUAL AND TOLD US TO CALL CTR ON THE PHONE. SOMEHOW THE #1 COM SWITCH WAS MOVED FROM THE CTR FREQ TO THE PRESET APCH FREQ. WE ARE BOTH BEWILDERED HOW IT WAS MOVED. MY ONLY SUGGESTION TO HELP REDUCE COM LOSS OR ONLY 1 PLT ON THE RADIO IS TO HAVE ATIS WX TAKEN AT SOME TIME - THEN ALWAYS AT A SPECIFIC TIME PUT THE NEW WX ON THE ATIS, IE, :00, ON THE HR LIKE CANADIANS DO OR MAKE ATIS AVAILABLE THROUGH ACARS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.