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Attributes | |
ACN | 302738 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14500 flight time type : 650 |
ASRS Report | 302738 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On arrival at sea, I reached up to turn off the fasten seat belt sign, and found it to be already off. No one else touched it, so we surmised it was off during landing. This item is on the 'before landing' checklist, which is done at approximately 10000 ft AGL on descent. Unfortunately, this is not a challenge/response check. The flight engineer (so) only calls out if this is not accomplished on his mechanical checklist. If it is somehow overlooked, no one is in the position to challenge him on the item. It just goes undone. Very poor checklist procedure, but one we adopted from a very major airline when we leased some of their aircraft and went through their training.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SEAT BELT SIGN NOT ON FOR LNDG.
Narrative: ON ARR AT SEA, I REACHED UP TO TURN OFF THE FASTEN SEAT BELT SIGN, AND FOUND IT TO BE ALREADY OFF. NO ONE ELSE TOUCHED IT, SO WE SURMISED IT WAS OFF DURING LNDG. THIS ITEM IS ON THE 'BEFORE LNDG' CHKLIST, WHICH IS DONE AT APPROX 10000 FT AGL ON DSCNT. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS NOT A CHALLENGE/RESPONSE CHK. THE FE (SO) ONLY CALLS OUT IF THIS IS NOT ACCOMPLISHED ON HIS MECHANICAL CHKLIST. IF IT IS SOMEHOW OVERLOOKED, NO ONE IS IN THE POS TO CHALLENGE HIM ON THE ITEM. IT JUST GOES UNDONE. VERY POOR CHKLIST PROC, BUT ONE WE ADOPTED FROM A VERY MAJOR AIRLINE WHEN WE LEASED SOME OF THEIR ACFT AND WENT THROUGH THEIR TRAINING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.