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Attributes | |
ACN | 303202 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tul |
State Reference | OK |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 450 agl bound upper : 450 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : tul artcc : rjtg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 303202 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I wish to inform you of an experience I had while executing an ILS approach at tulsa. The ATIS reported 2000 ft broken and visibility better than 6 mi. We broke out at 450 ft AGL in an unequivocally overcast sky state and noted a 3.5 mi visibility. As you probably already know, AWOS/ASOS was the offending technology. I knew this because of the A02 identifier at the beginning of the ATIS report. GA pilots must be made aware of the significant limitations of the AWOS/ASOS WX system. Myself and the crew I was with had no problems during this approach. We are far part 121 pilots with commensurate experience. If you put a newly instrument rated GA pilot into a similar situation, I believe the outcome might be tragic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WX RPTING EQUIP PROB ASOS RPTING INCORRECT ARPT WX.
Narrative: I WISH TO INFORM YOU OF AN EXPERIENCE I HAD WHILE EXECUTING AN ILS APCH AT TULSA. THE ATIS RPTED 2000 FT BROKEN AND VISIBILITY BETTER THAN 6 MI. WE BROKE OUT AT 450 FT AGL IN AN UNEQUIVOCALLY OVERCAST SKY STATE AND NOTED A 3.5 MI VISIBILITY. AS YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW, AWOS/ASOS WAS THE OFFENDING TECHNOLOGY. I KNEW THIS BECAUSE OF THE A02 IDENTIFIER AT THE BEGINNING OF THE ATIS RPT. GA PLTS MUST BE MADE AWARE OF THE SIGNIFICANT LIMITATIONS OF THE AWOS/ASOS WX SYS. MYSELF AND THE CREW I WAS WITH HAD NO PROBS DURING THIS APCH. WE ARE FAR PART 121 PLTS WITH COMMENSURATE EXPERIENCE. IF YOU PUT A NEWLY INST RATED GA PLT INTO A SIMILAR SIT, I BELIEVE THE OUTCOME MIGHT BE TRAGIC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.