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Attributes | |
ACN | 304180 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 15000 |
ASRS Report | 304180 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Our aircraft was #1 for takeoff on runway 12R, both pilots heard and first officer acknowledged to stl tower that we were cleared into position for takeoff. As the aircraft was turned the first officer confirmed to the stl tower to the early acknowledgement, the stl tower made no response. As the nose of aircraft turned toward the runway, we saw a light twin in position. Again the first officer called the tower, this time the stl tower responded by saying that we were not cleared into position, and he thanked us for our transmission. A 727 was asked to go around because the nose of our aircraft was over the hold short line for runway 12R. We were then cleared for takeoff. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that the aircraft operated in this incident was a dc-9. He further stated that he felt that the tower must have been blocked by another aircraft when it appeared to not answer their confirmation call for taxi into position and hold. He stated that he is always ready for takeoff when issued that instruction so has no problem in complying with an expected expedited takeoff. He mentioned that he had another instance subsequently, wherein he thought they were cleared into position since they were the first one at the side of the runway. However, it turned out that another aircraft on the other side of runway at an intersection was #1 and cleared instead of him. It does pay to be alert and ready to go!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF A MLG FAILED TO STOP AT THE HOLD SHORT LINE DURING TAXI FOR TKOF DUE TO A MISUNDERSTANDING WITH TWR INSTRUCTIONS.
Narrative: OUR ACFT WAS #1 FOR TKOF ON RWY 12R, BOTH PLTS HEARD AND FO ACKNOWLEDGED TO STL TWR THAT WE WERE CLRED INTO POS FOR TKOF. AS THE ACFT WAS TURNED THE FO CONFIRMED TO THE STL TWR TO THE EARLY ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, THE STL TWR MADE NO RESPONSE. AS THE NOSE OF ACFT TURNED TOWARD THE RWY, WE SAW A LIGHT TWIN IN POS. AGAIN THE FO CALLED THE TWR, THIS TIME THE STL TWR RESPONDED BY SAYING THAT WE WERE NOT CLRED INTO POS, AND HE THANKED US FOR OUR XMISSION. A 727 WAS ASKED TO GAR BECAUSE THE NOSE OF OUR ACFT WAS OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 12R. WE WERE THEN CLRED FOR TKOF. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT THE ACFT OPERATED IN THIS INCIDENT WAS A DC-9. HE FURTHER STATED THAT HE FELT THAT THE TWR MUST HAVE BEEN BLOCKED BY ANOTHER ACFT WHEN IT APPEARED TO NOT ANSWER THEIR CONFIRMATION CALL FOR TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD. HE STATED THAT HE IS ALWAYS READY FOR TKOF WHEN ISSUED THAT INSTRUCTION SO HAS NO PROB IN COMPLYING WITH AN EXPECTED EXPEDITED TKOF. HE MENTIONED THAT HE HAD ANOTHER INSTANCE SUBSEQUENTLY, WHEREIN HE THOUGHT THEY WERE CLRED INTO POS SINCE THEY WERE THE FIRST ONE AT THE SIDE OF THE RWY. HOWEVER, IT TURNED OUT THAT ANOTHER ACFT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF RWY AT AN INTXN WAS #1 AND CLRED INSTEAD OF HIM. IT DOES PAY TO BE ALERT AND READY TO GO!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.