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Attributes | |
ACN | 305049 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sju |
State Reference | PR |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sju |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Turbo (Jet) Prop |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 305049 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 305051 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Approximately 25 mi east of tjsj we asked for an IFR clearance to tjsj as we could see the building WX and IMC conditions. We were advised that tjst was IMC. Approach control (120.9) cleared our aircraft and assigned our heading and altitude as 260 degrees and 3000 ft. We asked for a 20 degree course change to avoid WX, per our radar, and the change was granted. We were given 2 additional vectors, 280 degrees and then 250 degrees, and finally switched to approach (119.4). While attempting to check in with approach (119.4) we became VMC and observed a B727 at approximately 10 O'clock, climbing within 1/2 mi. We turned hard left to avoid B727. We advised ATC of our actions and received a suggested altitude of 3500 ft. We advised ATC that we were on an IFR approach and had been cleared for some time. We received further vectors and landed on runway 8 without further incident. Attached is an article from the local paper dated may/xx/95 which states that a cerap radar system was malfunctioning at the time of the handoff to approach 119.4. At no time were we advised of the B727 traffic nor did we hear the B727 on the approach frequencys that we were assigned to. We had been in contact with ZSU following a handoff from tisx and we were turned over to approach control sju (120.9). At no time did we pop up on the radar without proper handoffs from ZSU. The article clearly blames the cerap radar. Obviously working radar and alert ATC would prevent further similar incidents. Supplemental information from acn 305051: on VFR flight from st. Croix, usvi, to sju, pr, utilizing radar flight following. Monitored that sju had gone IFR in rain. Requested and received IFR clearance. Was on vector and handed off to next controller when crew member in back called converging traffic. Turned to avoid traffic. Attaboy to backseater spotting traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT AVOIDED ON APCH AS OBS IN ACFT X SEES DEP TFC. THE SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT WORKS AFTER ALL!
Narrative: APPROX 25 MI E OF TJSJ WE ASKED FOR AN IFR CLRNC TO TJSJ AS WE COULD SEE THE BUILDING WX AND IMC CONDITIONS. WE WERE ADVISED THAT TJST WAS IMC. APCH CTL (120.9) CLRED OUR ACFT AND ASSIGNED OUR HDG AND ALT AS 260 DEGS AND 3000 FT. WE ASKED FOR A 20 DEG COURSE CHANGE TO AVOID WX, PER OUR RADAR, AND THE CHANGE WAS GRANTED. WE WERE GIVEN 2 ADDITIONAL VECTORS, 280 DEGS AND THEN 250 DEGS, AND FINALLY SWITCHED TO APCH (119.4). WHILE ATTEMPTING TO CHK IN WITH APCH (119.4) WE BECAME VMC AND OBSERVED A B727 AT APPROX 10 O'CLOCK, CLBING WITHIN 1/2 MI. WE TURNED HARD L TO AVOID B727. WE ADVISED ATC OF OUR ACTIONS AND RECEIVED A SUGGESTED ALT OF 3500 FT. WE ADVISED ATC THAT WE WERE ON AN IFR APCH AND HAD BEEN CLRED FOR SOME TIME. WE RECEIVED FURTHER VECTORS AND LANDED ON RWY 8 WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. ATTACHED IS AN ARTICLE FROM THE LCL PAPER DATED MAY/XX/95 WHICH STATES THAT A CERAP RADAR SYS WAS MALFUNCTIONING AT THE TIME OF THE HDOF TO APCH 119.4. AT NO TIME WERE WE ADVISED OF THE B727 TFC NOR DID WE HEAR THE B727 ON THE APCH FREQS THAT WE WERE ASSIGNED TO. WE HAD BEEN IN CONTACT WITH ZSU FOLLOWING A HDOF FROM TISX AND WE WERE TURNED OVER TO APCH CTL SJU (120.9). AT NO TIME DID WE POP UP ON THE RADAR WITHOUT PROPER HDOFS FROM ZSU. THE ARTICLE CLRLY BLAMES THE CERAP RADAR. OBVIOUSLY WORKING RADAR AND ALERT ATC WOULD PREVENT FURTHER SIMILAR INCIDENTS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 305051: ON VFR FLT FROM ST. CROIX, USVI, TO SJU, PR, UTILIZING RADAR FLT FOLLOWING. MONITORED THAT SJU HAD GONE IFR IN RAIN. REQUESTED AND RECEIVED IFR CLRNC. WAS ON VECTOR AND HANDED OFF TO NEXT CTLR WHEN CREW MEMBER IN BACK CALLED CONVERGING TFC. TURNED TO AVOID TFC. ATTABOY TO BACKSEATER SPOTTING TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.