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Attributes | |
ACN | 305168 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dny |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute airway : swf |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 400 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 305168 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Swf tower ATIS identify was called 'xa' instead of 'xb.' previous identify was also 'xa' instead of 'xb.' the deviation from the standard phonetic alphabet caused no in-flight difficulties (although it was distracting), but when I queried swf tower the controller indicated the deviation was commonplace. My question is: what other deviations from accepted/mandated procedures are condoned here? Possibly something that could result in an accident? Swf controllers should use standard terminology at all times to reduce confusion during critical phases of flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NONSTANDARD ATC PHRASEOLOGY ON ATIS.
Narrative: SWF TWR ATIS IDENT WAS CALLED 'XA' INSTEAD OF 'XB.' PREVIOUS IDENT WAS ALSO 'XA' INSTEAD OF 'XB.' THE DEV FROM THE STANDARD PHONETIC ALPHABET CAUSED NO INFLT DIFFICULTIES (ALTHOUGH IT WAS DISTRACTING), BUT WHEN I QUERIED SWF TWR THE CTLR INDICATED THE DEV WAS COMMONPLACE. MY QUESTION IS: WHAT OTHER DEVS FROM ACCEPTED/MANDATED PROCS ARE CONDONED HERE? POSSIBLY SOMETHING THAT COULD RESULT IN AN ACCIDENT? SWF CTLRS SHOULD USE STANDARD TERMINOLOGY AT ALL TIMES TO REDUCE CONFUSION DURING CRITICAL PHASES OF FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.