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Attributes | |
ACN | 305455 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 900 msl bound upper : 900 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 8700 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 305455 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
I departed teb airport via the sierra helicopter route at approximately XA38 local after receiving teb ATIS. There was no mention of any airspace restrs on the ATIS nor did either the ground or local controller issue any information about a temporary flight restr in the vicinity of the hudson river, the exit point for the sierra route. Upon reaching the hudson river at approximately XA40 local I contacted lga tower for permission to enter the new york class B airspace overhead central park and the east river for landing at E60 street heliport. The lga controller made no mention of any flight restr either. After landing at E60 street heliport, I heard mention of a temporary flight restr in the hudson river area. I asked the lga controller if he was aware of any flight restrs and he said he was not. When I got back to my home base I contacted bangor flight service and asked if they had any information about a temporary flight restr in the new york city area. He said they did not. I finally was able to get a faxed copy of a temporary flight restr from the E60 street heliport. Fortunately I entered the affected airspace at the exact time of the expring restr. However, it could have been a problem had I been 5 mins earlier. I recommend that restr airspace NOTAMS applicable to helicopters operating in the new york city area receive wider dissemination. At the very least they should be placed on ATIS for teb, jfk, ewr, and lga.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE RPTR DISCOVERED THAT A TEMPORARY FLT RESTR, UNKNOWN TO HIM OR THE CTLING AGENCY, WAS IN PLACE UNTIL JUST BEFORE HE PASSED THROUGH THE AFFECTED AIRSPACE. THE PLT WANTS FUTURE NOTAMS WIDELY DISTRIBUTED TO THE AFFECTED CTLING AGENCIES AND USERS.
Narrative: I DEPARTED TEB ARPT VIA THE SIERRA HELI RTE AT APPROX XA38 LCL AFTER RECEIVING TEB ATIS. THERE WAS NO MENTION OF ANY AIRSPACE RESTRS ON THE ATIS NOR DID EITHER THE GND OR LCL CTLR ISSUE ANY INFO ABOUT A TEMPORARY FLT RESTR IN THE VICINITY OF THE HUDSON RIVER, THE EXIT POINT FOR THE SIERRA RTE. UPON REACHING THE HUDSON RIVER AT APPROX XA40 LCL I CONTACTED LGA TWR FOR PERMISSION TO ENTER THE NEW YORK CLASS B AIRSPACE OVERHEAD CENTRAL PARK AND THE EAST RIVER FOR LNDG AT E60 STREET HELIPORT. THE LGA CTLR MADE NO MENTION OF ANY FLT RESTR EITHER. AFTER LNDG AT E60 STREET HELIPORT, I HEARD MENTION OF A TEMPORARY FLT RESTR IN THE HUDSON RIVER AREA. I ASKED THE LGA CTLR IF HE WAS AWARE OF ANY FLT RESTRS AND HE SAID HE WAS NOT. WHEN I GOT BACK TO MY HOME BASE I CONTACTED BANGOR FLT SVC AND ASKED IF THEY HAD ANY INFO ABOUT A TEMPORARY FLT RESTR IN THE NEW YORK CITY AREA. HE SAID THEY DID NOT. I FINALLY WAS ABLE TO GET A FAXED COPY OF A TEMPORARY FLT RESTR FROM THE E60 STREET HELIPORT. FORTUNATELY I ENTERED THE AFFECTED AIRSPACE AT THE EXACT TIME OF THE EXPRING RESTR. HOWEVER, IT COULD HAVE BEEN A PROB HAD I BEEN 5 MINS EARLIER. I RECOMMEND THAT RESTR AIRSPACE NOTAMS APPLICABLE TO HELIS OPERATING IN THE NEW YORK CITY AREA RECEIVE WIDER DISSEMINATION. AT THE VERY LEAST THEY SHOULD BE PLACED ON ATIS FOR TEB, JFK, EWR, AND LGA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.