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Attributes | |
ACN | 305450 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : slt |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 34400 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 11400 flight time type : 3018 |
ASRS Report | 305450 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 305439 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
ATC cleared us to descend to FL270 and be level 5 mi east of slate run VOR. Captain acknowledged FL270. Passing FL344, ATC advised clearance limit was FL370. Captain acknowledged the fact that he read back clearance as FL270 and asked ZOB controller if we have a problem here. ZOB controller stated no problem and continue descent to maintain FL290. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter said the airplane was a B-757. The event was confusing in that the flight at FL350 was approaching the destination and was expecting to be descended. When the controller issued the clearance to FL270 and the captain read back clearly FL270 with the crossing restr all was as it should have been. When the controller mentioned that we were cleared to FL370 then nothing was as it should have been. We should not have been climbing to FL370 at this point and the readback should have been clear. Then the controller said there was no problem when questioned and cleared us to descend to FL290. We thought it better to send in the report and not need to than to have needed to and not have sent the report in.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE CTLR STATED THE CREW WAS CLRED TO FL370 AS THE CREW WAS OBSERVED DSNDING TOWARD FL270.
Narrative: ATC CLRED US TO DSND TO FL270 AND BE LEVEL 5 MI E OF SLATE RUN VOR. CAPT ACKNOWLEDGED FL270. PASSING FL344, ATC ADVISED CLRNC LIMIT WAS FL370. CAPT ACKNOWLEDGED THE FACT THAT HE READ BACK CLRNC AS FL270 AND ASKED ZOB CTLR IF WE HAVE A PROB HERE. ZOB CTLR STATED NO PROB AND CONTINUE DSCNT TO MAINTAIN FL290. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR SAID THE AIRPLANE WAS A B-757. THE EVENT WAS CONFUSING IN THAT THE FLT AT FL350 WAS APCHING THE DEST AND WAS EXPECTING TO BE DSNDED. WHEN THE CTLR ISSUED THE CLRNC TO FL270 AND THE CAPT READ BACK CLRLY FL270 WITH THE XING RESTR ALL WAS AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. WHEN THE CTLR MENTIONED THAT WE WERE CLRED TO FL370 THEN NOTHING WAS AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CLBING TO FL370 AT THIS POINT AND THE READBACK SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLR. THEN THE CTLR SAID THERE WAS NO PROB WHEN QUESTIONED AND CLRED US TO DSND TO FL290. WE THOUGHT IT BETTER TO SEND IN THE RPT AND NOT NEED TO THAN TO HAVE NEEDED TO AND NOT HAVE SENT THE RPT IN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.